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Re: Another OT-animals


Is this the biological dad of those incredibly beautiful, talented,
kind, and loving children of hers? No excuses being offered for the man,
understand me, but if she walked away from a bad marriage/bad husband
with those three treasures then she definitely got the best end of the
deal. A great friend of mine, whose only marriage ended in an ugly
divorce from a very wealthy man, walked away from that marriage with the
one thing that cost her a legal share in a wealthy estate...her
daughter...her ex. literally forced her to sign over her rights to
everything in exchange for sole custody of their child...my friend
signed the papers without blinking twice and tells me she never once
regretted it...she got the only thing of value the two of them ever made
together and he got nothing of lasting, permanent value.



Melody, IA (Z 5/4)

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
--Albert Einstein

 --- On Sat 12/06, Pamela J. Evans < gardenqueen@gbronline.com > wrote:
From: Pamela J. Evans [mailto: gardenqueen@gbronline.com]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Sat,  6 Dec 2003 13:38:13 -0600
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Another OT-animals

Mahatma Ghandi said "the greatness of a nation and its moral
progress<br>can be judged by the way its animals are treated". I have it
on a<br>T-shirt and wear it often. And yes I can assure you Jesse's ex
isn't<br>worth the price of the bullet to put him out of his misery. A
total<br>waste of skin - ugh.<br><br><br>---------- Original Message
----------------------------------<br>From: "Kitty"
<kmrsy@comcast.net><br>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>Date: Sat, 6 Dec
2003 12:54:31 -0500<br><br>>Jesse,<br>>Lincoln or Ghandi or someone said
something to the effect that you can judge<br>>a nation's character by
the way it treats its animals. I believe the same<br>>can be said of
people. My ex#2 bought a remote control car (a grown man!)<br>>and used
it primarily to scare the cats away from their food dishes.
He<br>>placed Spot on top of doors to see how well he could balance.
Ex#1,<br>>though he loved animals, had a temper. Puppy had an accident
in his mom's<br>>home and he took it outside and beat its head against
the house. The whole<br>>neighborhood was out there trying to stop him.
Also threw my cat against a<br>>wall. #2 was just a pain, but #1 could
be really scary. These people are<br>>not good marriage material - not
for me anyway.<br>><br>>Kitty<br>><br>>----- Original Message -----
<br>>From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com><br>>To:
<gardenchat@hort.net><br>>Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 10:47
AM<br>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Another OT-allergies<br>><br>><br>>> You know
that old saying "children and animals never lie"? Well,
it's<br>>true.<br>>> I had a cat who HATED my ex. She would wait at the
end of the hallway<br>>> when she knew he was coming down the hall and
right as he got there, she<br>>> would reach out and claw his
ankles....and she pee'd on his jeans when he<br>>> left them on the
floor. He wanted a German Shepherd...so I got him<br>>> one....it would
have nothing to do with him...so it became MY dog. Once,<br>>> when I
found my ex throwing my cat down the stairs to the

basement....all<br>>> hell broke loose and needless to say...divorce
papers were filed shortly<br>>> thereafter. NONE of our animals like
him. None of the neighbors kids<br>>would<br>>> get around him.
*sigh*....one of those things that I have to ask myself<br>>> over and
over "WHAT in the @#$ was I thinking when I married this jerk?"<br>>>
But we all make mistakes....and learn from them.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>>
>From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net><br>>> >Reply-To:
gardenchat@hort.net<br>>> >To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>>> >Subject: Re:
[CHAT] Another OT-allergies<br>>> >Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:56:09
-0500<br>>> ><br>>> >We must have cat's in our lives. I suspect Jim has
always needed someone<br>>> >around to swat him on the head.<br>>>
><br>>> >Meanwhile.... Jim, what is a govan? Is it like an afghan? It's
not in<br>>the<br>>> >dictionary and when I googled it, the best I can
come up with is a town<br>>in<br>>> >Scotland that has a fiddle
festival.<br>>> ><br>>> >Kitty<br>>> ><br>>> >----- Original Message
-----<br>>> >From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org><br>>> >To:
<gardenchat@hort.net><br>>> >Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 6:05
PM<br>>> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Another OT-allergies<br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>>
> > When I was remodeling a farmhouse, I was lonely and got myself
a<br>>> > > long-haired black kitten. I named her "Govan," because the
first night<br>>> > > with me she slept on the govan that was spread
across the end of my<br>>> > > bed. Thereafter, she slept on my
hip.<br>>> > ><br>>> > > One of the fixtures in the re-model was a
stepladder--one of those<br>>with<br>>> > > a folding paint-can shelf
just below the top step. The step ladder was<br>>> > > always open and
Govan decided to camp on that paint-can shelf when I<br>>> > > was
working on the lift-and-grunt stuff.<br>>> > ><br>>> > > She also
decided that whenever I walked by the ladder, it was her duty<br>>> > >
to swat me on the head. Which she did, 10 or 15 times a day.<br>>> >
><br>>> > ><br>>> > > On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 11:29 AM,

Bo
nnie Holmes wrote:<br>>> > ><br>>> > > > Years ago we had two
Siamese...they were so much fun...one really<br>>took<br>>> > > >
to<br>>> > > > my husband. She would hang on to his ankle as he walked
through the<br>>> > > > house<br>>> > > > if she felt she had not
received sufficient attention until he<br>>petted<br>>> > > > her.<br>>>
> > > At that time, one of our papers was an evening one. He would sit
in<br>>a<br>>> > > > lazy<br>>> > > > boy to read after work. She would
perch behind his head. If he<br>>> > > > ignored<br>>> > > > her, she
would put her paws over his glasses...if he was still<br>>intent<br>>> >
> > on<br>>> > > > reading, she would sit on his paper. In the morning,
she would<br>>sneak<br>>> > > > into<br>>> > > > the bedroom and curl up
on his chest. He always commented on<br>>feeling<br>>> > > > this<br>>>
> > > weight and open his eyes to these green ones staring at him and
then<br>>> > > > the<br>>> > > > purring.<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > > Bonnie
Zone 6+ ETN<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > ><br>>> > > ><br>>> > > ><br>>> > > >>
[Original Message]<br>>> > > >> From: Libby Valentine
<L_Valentine@adelphia.net><br>>> > > >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>>>
> > >> Date: 11/23/2003 7:14:04 AM<br>>> > > >> Subject: Re: [CHAT]
Another OT-allergies<br>>> > > >><br>>> > > >> There are also
supplements (combination of brewers yeast, lecithin,<br>>> > > >>
bran,<br>>> > > >> and bone meal) that can be mixed in to the food and
result in<br>>reduced<br>>> > > > dander<br>>> > > >> (and even lovelier
coats than usual!) - whether it helps the<br>>allergic<br>>> > > >
person<br>>> > > >> depends on what exactly is triggering the allergic
reaction (dander<br>>> > > >> is a<br>>> > > >> very common trigger but
I understand some people are allergic to<br>>> > > >> something<br>>> >
> >> in the saliva).<br>>> > > >><br>>> > > >> When the dr. was trying
to diagnose the cause of my asthma (another<br>>> > > >> allergy-induced
asthma sufferer here) he wanted to know if I had<br>>> > > >>
animals,<br>>> > > >> and I t

old him I did and I would. It's a good thing for me the<br>>test<br>>> >
> > results<br>>> > > >> indicated no cat allergies.<br>>> > > >><br>>>
> > >> Our Abyssinian had a rougher-textured, stiffer fur and had less
of<br>>> >the<br>>> > > > fuzzy<br>>> > > >> undercoat. She was a
beautiful animal. However, another<br>>> > > >> characteristic<br>>> > >
> of<br>>> > > >> the breed is they are social, people-oriented cats but
not lap<br>>cats.<br>>> > > >> If<br>>> > > >> looking at purebreds, I
would consider the breed<br>>> > > >> characteristics/general<br>>> > >
>> personality traits as well as fur - otherwise you could end up
with<br>>> >an<br>>> > > >> allergy-acceptable animal that isn't your
kind of pet. Our rescues<br>>> > > >> have<br>>> > > >> been wonderful
companions, but you usually don't know what their<br>>> > > >>
physical<br>>> > > >> characteristics are until you've had them a while
and they're<br>>really<br>>> > > >> healthy.<br>>> > > >><br>>> > > >> I
hope you find a suitable cat eventually, Bonnie, they are great<br>>> >
> >> companions.<br>>> > > >><br>>> > > >> Libby<br>>> > > >><br>>> > >
>> ----- Original Message -----<br>>> > > >> From: "Kitty"
<kmrsy@comcast.net><br>>> > > >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>>> > > >>
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:18 PM<br>>> > > >> Subject: Re:
[CHAT] Another OT-allergies<br>>> > > >><br>>> > > >><br>>> > > >>> I
think the Rex cat is reputed to cause fewer allergy problems.<br>>> > >
>>> Kitty<br>>> > > >><br>>> > > >>> ----- Original Message -----<br>>>
> > >>> From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com><br>>> > >
>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>>> > > >>> Sent: Saturday, November 22,
2003 7:28 PM<br>>> > > >>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Another
OT-allergies<br>>> > > >>>> Bonnie, there is a breed of hairless or
nearly so cat, called a<br>>> > > >>>> Sphinx<br>>> > > >>>> or
something. I think they're funny looking, but I love a
cat's<br>>fur<br>>> > > >>>> -<br>>> > > > so<br>>> > > >>>> soft and so
pretty. Especially mine w/ her marvelous c

ol
oring and<br>>> > > >>>> markings, but I may be biased. Just a
thought...<br>>> > > >><br>>> > ><br>>>>
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