Re: Another OT-animals

Biological is the only way to describe his parental participation, the
loser. Sorry - he's just loathesome. I was shocked and appalled when I
found out that I call those lovely children on their bithdays and he
can't be bothered half the time. Inconceivable.


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Tue,  9 Dec 2003 06:57:22 -0500 (EST)

>Is this the biological dad of those incredibly beautiful, talented,
>kind, and loving children of hers? No excuses being offered for the man,
>understand me, but if she walked away from a bad marriage/bad husband
>with those three treasures then she definitely got the best end of the
>deal. A great friend of mine, whose only marriage ended in an ugly
>divorce from a very wealthy man, walked away from that marriage with the
>one thing that cost her a legal share in a wealthy estate...her
>daughter...her ex. literally forced her to sign over her rights to
>everything in exchange for sole custody of their child...my friend
>signed the papers without blinking twice and tells me she never once
>regretted it...she got the only thing of value the two of them ever made
>together and he got nothing of lasting, permanent value.
>
>
>
>Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
>
>"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
>--Albert Einstein
>
> --- On Sat 12/06, Pamela J. Evans < gardenqueen@gbronline.com > wrote:
>From: Pamela J. Evans [mailto: gardenqueen@gbronline.com]
>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Date: Sat,  6 Dec 2003 13:38:13 -0600
>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Another OT-animals
>
>Mahatma Ghandi said "the greatness of a nation and its moral
>progress<br>can be judged by the way its animals are treated". I have it
>on a<br>T-shirt and wear it often. And yes I can assure you Jesse's ex
>isn't<br>worth the price of the bullet to put him out of his misery. A
>total<br>waste of skin - ugh.<br><br><br>---------- Original Message
>----------------------------------<br>From: "Kitty"
><kmrsy@comcast.net><br>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>Date: Sat, 6 Dec
>2003 12:54:31 -0500<br><br>>Jesse,<br>>Lincoln or Ghandi or someone said
>something to the effect that you can judge<br>>a nation's character by
>the way it treats its animals. I believe the same<br>>can be said of
>people. My ex#2 bought a remote control car (a grown man!)<br>>and used
>it primarily to scare the cats away from their food dishes.
>He<br>>placed Spot on top of doors to see how well he could balance.
>Ex#1,<br>>though he loved animals, had a temper. Puppy had an accident
>in his mom's<br>>home and he took it outside and beat its head against
>the house. The whole<br>>neighborhood was out there trying to stop him.
>Also threw my cat against a<br>>wall. #2 was just a pain, but #1 could
>be really scary. These people are<br>>not good marriage material - not
>for me anyway.<br>><br>>Kitty<br>><br>>----- Original Message -----
><br>>From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com><br>>To:
><gardenchat@hort.net><br>>Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 10:47
>AM<br>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Another OT-allergies<br>><br>><br>>> You know
>that old saying "children and animals never lie"? Well,
>it's<br>>true.<br>>> I had a cat who HATED my ex. She would wait at the
>end of the hallway<br>>> when she knew he was coming down the hall and
>right as he got there, she<br>>> would reach out and claw his
>ankles....and she pee'd on his jeans when he<br>>> left them on the
>floor. He wanted a German Shepherd...so I got him<br>>> one....it would
>have nothing to do with him...so it became MY dog. Once,<br>>> when I
>found my ex throwing my cat down the stairs to the
>
>basement....all<br>>> hell broke loose and needless to say...divorce
>papers were filed shortly<br>>> thereafter. NONE of our animals like
>him. None of the neighbors kids<br>>would<br>>> get around him.
>*sigh*....one of those things that I have to ask myself<br>>> over and
>over "WHAT in the @#$ was I thinking when I married this jerk?"<br>>>
>But we all make mistakes....and learn from them.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>>
>>From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net><br>>> >Reply-To:
>gardenchat@hort.net<br>>> >To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>>> >Subject: Re:
>[CHAT] Another OT-allergies<br>>> >Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:56:09
>-0500<br>>> ><br>>> >We must have cat's in our lives. I suspect Jim has
>always needed someone<br>>> >around to swat him on the head.<br>>>
>><br>>> >Meanwhile.... Jim, what is a govan? Is it like an afghan? It's
>not in<br>>the<br>>> >dictionary and when I googled it, the best I can
>come up with is a town<br>>in<br>>> >Scotland that has a fiddle
>festival.<br>>> ><br>>> >Kitty<br>>> ><br>>> >----- Original Message
>-----<br>>> >From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org><br>>> >To:
><gardenchat@hort.net><br>>> >Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 6:05
>PM<br>>> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Another OT-allergies<br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>>
>> > When I was remodeling a farmhouse, I was lonely and got myself
>a<br>>> > > long-haired black kitten. I named her "Govan," because the
>first night<br>>> > > with me she slept on the govan that was spread
>across the end of my<br>>> > > bed. Thereafter, she slept on my
>hip.<br>>> > ><br>>> > > One of the fixtures in the re-model was a
>stepladder--one of those<br>>with<br>>> > > a folding paint-can shelf
>just below the top step. The step ladder was<br>>> > > always open and
>Govan decided to camp on that paint-can shelf when I<br>>> > > was
>working on the lift-and-grunt stuff.<br>>> > ><br>>> > > She also
>decided that whenever I walked by the ladder, it was her duty<br>>> > >
>to swat me on the head. Which she did, 10 or 15 times a day.<br>>> >
>><br>>> > ><br>>> > > On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 11:29 AM,
>
>Bo
>nnie Holmes wrote:<br>>> > ><br>>> > > > Years ago we had two
>Siamese...they were so much fun...one really<br>>took<br>>> > > >
>to<br>>> > > > my husband. She would hang on to his ankle as he walked
>through the<br>>> > > > house<br>>> > > > if she felt she had not
>received sufficient attention until he<br>>petted<br>>> > > > her.<br>>>
>> > > At that time, one of our papers was an evening one. He would sit
>in<br>>a<br>>> > > > lazy<br>>> > > > boy to read after work. She would
>perch behind his head. If he<br>>> > > > ignored<br>>> > > > her, she
>would put her paws over his glasses...if he was still<br>>intent<br>>> >
>> > on<br>>> > > > reading, she would sit on his paper. In the morning,
>she would<br>>sneak<br>>> > > > into<br>>> > > > the bedroom and curl up
>on his chest. He always commented on<br>>feeling<br>>> > > > this<br>>>
>> > > weight and open his eyes to these green ones staring at him and
>then<br>>> > > > the<br>>> > > > purring.<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > > Bonnie
>Zone 6+ ETN<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > ><br>>> > > ><br>>> > > ><br>>> > > >>
>[Original Message]<br>>> > > >> From: Libby Valentine
><L_Valentine@adelphia.net><br>>> > > >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>>>
>> > >> Date: 11/23/2003 7:14:04 AM<br>>> > > >> Subject: Re: [CHAT]
>Another OT-allergies<br>>> > > >><br>>> > > >> There are also
>supplements (combination of brewers yeast, lecithin,<br>>> > > >>
>bran,<br>>> > > >> and bone meal) that can be mixed in to the food and
>result in<br>>reduced<br>>> > > > dander<br>>> > > >> (and even lovelier
>coats than usual!) - whether it helps the<br>>allergic<br>>> > > >
>person<br>>> > > >> depends on what exactly is triggering the allergic
>reaction (dander<br>>> > > >> is a<br>>> > > >> very common trigger but
>I understand some people are allergic to<br>>> > > >> something<br>>> >
>> >> in the saliva).<br>>> > > >><br>>> > > >> When the dr. was trying
>to diagnose the cause of my asthma (another<br>>> > > >> allergy-induced
>asthma sufferer here) he wanted to know if I had<br>>> > > >>
>animals,<br>>> > > >> and I t
>
>old him I did and I would. It's a good thing for me the<br>>test<br>>> >
>> > results<br>>> > > >> indicated no cat allergies.<br>>> > > >><br>>>
>> > >> Our Abyssinian had a rougher-textured, stiffer fur and had less
>of<br>>> >the<br>>> > > > fuzzy<br>>> > > >> undercoat. She was a
>beautiful animal. However, another<br>>> > > >> characteristic<br>>> > >
>> of<br>>> > > >> the breed is they are social, people-oriented cats but
>not lap<br>>cats.<br>>> > > >> If<br>>> > > >> looking at purebreds, I
>would consider the breed<br>>> > > >> characteristics/general<br>>> > >
>>> personality traits as well as fur - otherwise you could end up
>with<br>>> >an<br>>> > > >> allergy-acceptable animal that isn't your
>kind of pet. Our rescues<br>>> > > >> have<br>>> > > >> been wonderful
>companions, but you usually don't know what their<br>>> > > >>
>physical<br>>> > > >> characteristics are until you've had them a while
>and they're<br>>really<br>>> > > >> healthy.<br>>> > > >><br>>> > > >> I
>hope you find a suitable cat eventually, Bonnie, they are great<br>>> >
>> >> companions.<br>>> > > >><br>>> > > >> Libby<br>>> > > >><br>>> > >
>>> ----- Original Message -----<br>>> > > >> From: "Kitty"
><kmrsy@comcast.net><br>>> > > >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>>> > > >>
>Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:18 PM<br>>> > > >> Subject: Re:
>[CHAT] Another OT-allergies<br>>> > > >><br>>> > > >><br>>> > > >>> I
>think the Rex cat is reputed to cause fewer allergy problems.<br>>> > >
>>>> Kitty<br>>> > > >><br>>> > > >>> ----- Original Message -----<br>>>
>> > >>> From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com><br>>> > >
>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>>> > > >>> Sent: Saturday, November 22,
>2003 7:28 PM<br>>> > > >>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Another
>OT-allergies<br>>> > > >>>> Bonnie, there is a breed of hairless or
>nearly so cat, called a<br>>> > > >>>> Sphinx<br>>> > > >>>> or
>something. I think they're funny looking, but I love a
>cat's<br>>fur<br>>> > > >>>> -<br>>> > > > so<br>>> > > >>>> soft and so
>pretty. Especially mine w/ her marvelous c
>
>ol
>oring and<br>>> > > >>>> markings, but I may be biased. Just a
>thought...<br>>> > > >><br>>> > ><br>>>>
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>10<br>>> > ><br>>> > >
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