Re: Was Yucky veggies... now smoking
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- Subject: Re: [CHAT] Was Yucky veggies... now smoking
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- Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 04:02:44 -0500 (EST)
Thanks for the info. Jim. I'm hoping this will be my last quit, too!
Melody
Hills, IA
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
--Albert Einstein
--- On Thu 12/16, james singer < jsinger@igc.org > wrote:
From: james singer [mailto: jsinger@igc.org]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:58:59 -0500
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Was Yucky veggies... now smoking
The first time I quit was just after the surgeon general's report. I
<br>had to go to hospital to have my appendix removed, so that provided
a <br>setting that made quitting somewhat easier than most other
scenarios <br>would have. And I did quit. And stayed quit for about 10
years. Then <br>started again. Then quit again. Then started again.
Seven or 8 years <br>ago I quit for the last time. I realized one night
I could barely <br>breathe. That made the choice so simple; even I could
understand it.<br><br>You never get over the craving, Melody. I'd sure
like to have a cigaret <br>right now. But I want to breathe, so I'll
decline. On the up-tick, the <br>craving does abate some over time. I
don't pat my shirt pockets any <br>longer looking for a butt. But I do
dream about looking for some place <br>to buy cigarets--and even of
smoking them after I've bought them.<br><br>I've also decided stopping
is a perpetual 12-step program. "Step One: <br>Don't smoke now!" "Step
Two: See Step One!"<br><br>Quitting is the only thing that works.
Substituting one gratification <br>for another only makes you fat. Then
you've got a real <br>problem--overweight with bad lungs.<br><br>Good
luck. I'm rooting for all you guys to do yourselves a big
favor.<br><br>On Thursday, December 16, 2004, at 01:03 AM, Melody
wrote:<br><br>> Well Jim...how long did it take for you to finally quit
for the last <br>> time??? And how long to get over craving a
cigarette?<br>><br>><br>> Melody<br>><br>> "The most beautiful thing we
can experience is the mysterious."<br>> --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> ---
On Wed 12/15, james singer < jsinger@igc.org > wrote:<br>> From: james
singer [mailto: jsinger@igc.org]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date:
Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:06:45 -0500<br>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Was Yucky
veggies... now smoking<br>><br>> Yeah, Melody, me too at
14.<br><br>Dixie Samples, who was a half-year<br>> ahead of me in
school, and who was a <br>real carnivore, bought them <br>> for<br>> me.
Lucky Strikes, 25 cents--an amount <br>equal to
one day's lunch<br>> money--for a pack of 20. "Lucky Strike green
<br>'had gone to war'" a<br>> few years earlier, so this was the white
package <br>that doesn't <br>> appear<br>> to have changed much since
then.<br><br>When I got home from school on<br>> the day Dixie
delivered, I went around <br>the corner and sat on the<br>> curb of a
street that ran parallel to the one <br>I lived on. I took <br>>
the<br>> pack out of my pocket, nervously ripped the <br>cellophane from
it, <br>> tore<br>> the tin-foiled paper open, and froze. Probably<br>>
<br>guilt.<br><br>Remember the proper way to tear a pack of cigs
open?<br>> There was a tax <br>stamp across the proximate middle of the
top. And<br>> the cool thing to do <br>was take care to leave the tax
stamp pristine<br>> while ripping out the <br>tin-foil paper on either
side of it [but, God<br>> forfend, not both], then <br>thunking the pack
on your hand until butt<br>> popped out.<br><br>My father smoked like a
stove--two, three packs a <br>> day<br>> for 70 years. My <br>mother did
not smoke; she thought it was a male<br>> thing and women who <br>smoked
were loose or worse. My mother had<br>> peculiar opinions about a lot
<br>of things--including how one should<br>> cook
vegetables.<br><br>Sitting on the curb, I finally took a deep<br>>
breath and knocked a butt <br>out of the pack. Remember that move?
You<br>> hit the top of the pack <br>against the side of your hand
between your<br>> thumb and index finger. The <br>force of the hit
knocked at least one<br>> cig free and accessible.<br><br>All my peers
and, indeed, conventional<br>> wisdom, said my first cigarette <br>would
make me nauseous. So it was<br>> with some trepidation that I put one
<br>in my mouth, struck a match,<br>> placed the flame at the end of the
weed, <br>and sucked.<br><br>And <br>> then<br>> inhaled. It did not
make me nauseous. Rather, It made me feel <br>good.<br>> The male rite
of passage [probably] kicked in.<br><br>It would take ne<br>><br>> arly
30 years for me to quit the first time.<
br
><br><br>On Wednesday,<br>> December 15, 2004, at 12:45 AM, Melody
wrote:<br><br>> I smoked my <br>> first<br>> cigarette at age 14 and
within a couple of months I<br>> was hooked. I<br>> constantly tell my
kids it was the single stupidest <br>> moment<br>> <br>> of<br>> my
life...being too afraid to look uncool in front of these<br>><br>>
"friends"...rarely a day goes by anymore that I don't regret being<br>>
a<br>> smoker and I can't tell you how many times I've tried to<br>>
quit...sigh.<br>> It's truly the one thing in my life where I feel
like<br>> a failure. :-(<br>><br>><br>> Melody Hobert-Mellecker<br>>
Director,<br>> Stewardship & Religious Education<br>> St. Joseph's
Parish, Hills,<br>> IA<br>><br>> "The most beautiful thing we can
experience is the<br>> mysterious."<br>> --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> ---
On Tue 12/14, <<br>> gardenqueen@academicplanet.com > wrote:<br>> From:
[mailto:<br>> gardenqueen@academicplanet.com]<br>> To:
gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date:<br>> Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:05:05 -0600<br>>
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Was Yucky<br>> veggies... now smoking<br>><br>> I
know Jim. It's the dumbest thing I <br>> do<br>> every day.
<br><br>Pam<br>> Evans<br>Kemp, TX<br>zone 8A<br>-----<br>> Original
Message -----<br>From:<br>> james singer<br>Sent: 12/14/2004<br>>
6:04:16 PM<br>To:<br>> gardenchat@hort.net<br>Subject: [CHAT] Was
Yucky<br>> veggies... now<br>> smoking<br><br>Yucky veggies are better
for your<br>> health than smoking <br>> is.<br>> If your <br>health is
important to<br>> you, that is. If it's not, you might<br>> consider
<br>the words of <br>> that<br>> famous Oklahoma sage Mickey Mantle:
"If<br>> I'd known I <br>was going<br>> to live this long, I'd'a taken
better care of<br>><br>> myself."<br><br>Tobacco is the most addictive
substance our society<br>> has<br>> discovered so <br>far. Period. You
might be suckered into<br>> believing all<br>> that <br>sanctimonious
crap about cocaine and heroin<br>> and morpheme and<br>> marijuana,
<br>but it's our government's endorsed<br>> tobacco that it
's <br>> real<br>> danger. It <br>will debilitate you<br>> before it
kills you, and it will<br>> surely kill you.<br><br>><br>> <b<br>>
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