Re: monkey puzzle correction

Interesting what we find when we go back to the books.  I saw 2 pics of
Monkey Puzzle at different stages of maturity.  Very interesting tree.  But
I never thought about it being related to the Norfolk Island Pine.

Everyone is stretching their limits with global warming, maybe Peter will
get lucky.

Kitty



> [Original Message]
> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 2/18/2003 5:16:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] monkey puzzle correction
>
> i misspoke about the monkey puzzle tree [araucaria araucana--named, no 
> doubt, by a stammering taxonomist]. like many others [some of whom i have 
> scolded for not knowing better] my brain temporarily confused the monkey 
> puzzle with it's close relative, the bunya-bunya [a. bidwillii]. it is 
> unfortunate but true that the bunya-bunya is usually sold as the monkey 
> puzzle tree--probably because it is either easier to grow or because seed 
> are more readily available or because the name is catchier. in the north, 
> bunya-bunya are grown and sold by many florist's shops as house plant 
> curiosities. down here [and in much of california] they are planted 
> outdoors, as is the third member of that tribe, the norfolk island pine
[a. 
> heterophylia]. the true monkey puzzle is somewhat rare in this country.
the 
> only one i know of is a huge old specimen on the proximate northwest
corner 
> of the capital grounds in california. if you ever get a chance to see it, 
> you will immediately recognize the differences between it and the more 
> common bunya-bunya.
>
> sunset says the true monkey puzzle is the most cold hardy of the trio. it 
> also says it is "possible, but not reliable" in peter's zone.
>
> now, ain't that a trip?
>
>
> At 05:07 PM 2/17/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >oh, well, monkey puzzle cuttings. the only two, maybe three, persons
i've 
> >known that have successfully propagated monkey puzzle trees have done it 
> >from seed. and the trees do not readily produce seed, it seems. one of
the 
> >local nurseries here, for example, has a mature tree staked out on a 
> >rather posh key and when he sees it has produced cones, he knocks on the 
> >door, hat in hand, and offers to buy them.
> >
> >
> >At 11:59 AM 2/17/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Josh, just catching up are you? :+)
> >>No, no replies on this qstn, but I suppose I can live without knowing.
> >>The question about this term was in regard to Monkey Puzzle cuttings.
> >>
> >>
> >>Kitty
> >>
> >>-------Original Message-------
> >>From: Josh Haskell <haskell@ncweb.com>
> >>Sent: 02/17/03 01:29 PM
> >>To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hort term
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Kitty,
> >>
> >>           I'm with you on this one; I know there is a term for this,
but I
> >>can't come up with it either.  Have you had any answers?  We talked
about
> >>it
> >>in a class or seminar a year or so ago, but I can't remember the plant
> >>involved.
> >>
> >>                                                                    
Josh
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
> >>To: <Master_Gardeners@yahoogroups.com>; "Agardenchat"
> >><gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:49 AM
> >>Subject: [CHAT] Hort term
> >>
> >>
> >> > Can anyone help me with this term? "some trees need a leader for a
> >> > cutting if you want a tree, otherwise a branch just keeps growing
like a
> >> > branch.  Can't remember the name for this phenomenon" Kitty
> >> >
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> >>If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.
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