Re: Fwd: Nitrogen application rates

I know you wouldn't David.  Bonnie is the sort we all strive to be like.  The purest soul - her and Jesse both.

Yoda

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:09:14 -0800

>Bonnie, I'm glad you ended that with blessings because as you know I was teasing
>you a little.  Hope I didn't cast aspirations on your character.  You know I
>would never do that to you.
>
>Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:
>
>> David, I never needed a "doobie."  Nature always was enough of a high.
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Bonnie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
>> Of David Franzman
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:56 PM
>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
>>
>> Oh man Bonnie, I just had this picture of you laying out in a field, looking
>> up
>> at the sky, smoking a doobie and chilling with the music.  Sheesh, made me
>> nostalgic!
>>
>> DF
>>
>> Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:
>>
>> > There is nothing wrong with blue-grass music either.  I love to lay on the
>> > blue grass and listen to the music of the wind while looking at what
>> shapes
>> > the clouds have made in the soft blue sky mid-summer.  (LOL)  O.K., I've
>> > never REALLY grown up.  (No pun intended.)
>> >
>> > Blessings,
>> >
>> > Bonnie
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
>> Behalf
>> > Of David Franzman
>> > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:29 PM
>> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
>> >
>> > Oh man, I love Blue Grass.  I just got an Alison Kraus cd.  She's quite
>> > talented.
>> >
>> > DF
>> >
>> > Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:
>> >
>> > > Andrea, mine is mostly blue grass with some perennial rye in the shadier
>> > > areas.  Thanks for checking it for me!
>> > >
>> > > Blessings,
>> > >
>> > > Bonnie
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
>> > Behalf
>> > > Of Andrea H
>> > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:33 AM
>> > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
>> > >
>> > > let me know what kind of lawn you have and I can look it up in my trusty
>> > > 'turf management" book.
>> > >
>> > > Andrea H
>> > > Beaufort, SC
>> > > Zone 8b
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
>> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:29 PM
>> > > Subject: RE: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
>> > >
>> > > > Great info, Cathy!  I imagine that applies to what we put on our lawns
>> > > after
>> > > > a fashion, too.
>> > > >
>> > > > Blessings,
>> > > >
>> > > > Bonnie
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
>> > > Behalf
>> > > > Of cathy carpenter
>> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 3:35 PM
>> > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> > > > Subject: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
>> > > >
>> > > > Thought there might be some interest in this information on Nitrogen
>> > > > application rates from our extension ag educator. It is intended for
>> > > > farmers, but contains food for thought for us all.
>> > > > Cathy
>> > > >
>> > > > Begin forwarded message:
>> > > >
>> > > > > From: Mike Roegge <roeggem@uiuc.edu>
>> > > > > Date: Fri Feb 07, 2003  01:47:14 PM US/Central
>> > > > > To: roeggem@uiuc.edu
>> > > > > Subject: Nitrogen application rates
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Weekly Crop Update                  2-7-03
>> > > > > By Mike Roegge, University of Illinois Extension, Adams/Brown Unit
>> > > > >
>> > > > >     Our featured speaker at the recently held No Till Seminar, Dr.
>> > Fred
>> > > > > Below, presented his research on nitrogen rates. He looked at N
>> rates
>> > > > > over a three-year period in a variety of cropping situations: no
>> till,
>> > > > > conventional, C-SB and C-C rotations, on producersm fields and on
>> > > > > research farms. His objective was to determine the optimal rate of
>> > > > > nitrogen for plant yield. Not necessarily the economic rate, but the
>> > > > > rate at which, biologically, the plant quit responding.
>> > > > >     With over 40 site years of data, his findings were that in no
>> > > > > circumstances, did the corn crop require any more than 1.2 pounds of
>> N
>> > > > > per bushel of yield. For many years, this has been the U of I
>> > > > > recommendation. And it hasnmt changed.
>> > > > > Actually, the average requirement was 0.9 pounds of N per bushel of
>> > > > > yield. The same need was found regardless of environment grown
>> > (tilled,
>> > > > > preceding crop, etc.). Interestingly enough, when plotted against
>> > > > > yield, those fields that yielded the lowest required the highest
>> > amount
>> > > > > of N (per bushel). The higher the productivity of the soil, the
>> lower
>> > > > > the amount of N needed per bushel of grain.
>> > > > >     If nothing else, this work proved again, that 1.2 pounds of N
>> per
>> > > > > bushel of corn is all that is necessary. There is already some
>> lfluffn
>> > > > > built into this recommendation, so making applications of higher
>> rates
>> > > > > of N only costs additional dollars and risks higher N losses.
>> > > > > Of course, make sure when you account for the 1.2 pounds, you
>> include
>> > > > > incidental N (starter, DAP, 28%, etc.) and also take the soybean N
>> > > > > credit if that was your prior crop.
>> > > > >     We still have approximately 50% of the corn acres to receive
>> > > > > nitrogen this spring. Many producers still use rates higher than
>> > > > > recommended as insurance against the year when crop yields go
>> through
>> > > > > the roof. They donmt want to get caught short. However, based upon
>> > this
>> > > > > research, and on other N research conducted by the U of I, there is
>> no
>> > > > > need to lfluffn your N rate. Data from Dr. Bob Hoeft over an 18 year
>> > > > > time period found similar results. He found that by increasing N
>> rate
>> > > > > by 30-40 pounds per acre over the 1.2 pounds actually led to
>> decreased
>> > > > > net income.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Mike Roegge             University of Illinois Extension
>> > > > > 330 S. 36th Street          Adams/Brown Unit
>> > > > > Quincy, IL 62301            r*@uiuc.edu
>> > > > > Phone: 217-223-8380         FAX: 217-223-9368
>> > > >
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