RE: Fwd: Nitrogen application rates

Don't ever worry about Bonnie--- she has her soul in the right place and
can take care of herself... always... awesome lady!

Donna

> 
> I know you wouldn't David.  Bonnie is the sort we all strive to be
like.
> The purest soul - her and Jesse both.
> 
> Yoda
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date:  Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:09:14 -0800
> 
> >Bonnie, I'm glad you ended that with blessings because as you know I
was
> teasing
> >you a little.  Hope I didn't cast aspirations on your character.  You
> know I
> >would never do that to you.
> >
> >Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:
> >
> >> David, I never needed a "doobie."  Nature always was enough of a
high.
> >>
> >> Blessings,
> >>
> >> Bonnie
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]
On
> Behalf
> >> Of David Franzman
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:56 PM
> >> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> >>
> >> Oh man Bonnie, I just had this picture of you laying out in a
field,
> looking
> >> up
> >> at the sky, smoking a doobie and chilling with the music.  Sheesh,
made
> me
> >> nostalgic!
> >>
> >> DF
> >>
> >> Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:
> >>
> >> > There is nothing wrong with blue-grass music either.  I love to
lay
> on the
> >> > blue grass and listen to the music of the wind while looking at
what
> >> shapes
> >> > the clouds have made in the soft blue sky mid-summer.  (LOL)
O.K.,
> I've
> >> > never REALLY grown up.  (No pun intended.)
> >> >
> >> > Blessings,
> >> >
> >> > Bonnie
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
[o*@hort.net] On
> >> Behalf
> >> > Of David Franzman
> >> > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:29 PM
> >> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> >> >
> >> > Oh man, I love Blue Grass.  I just got an Alison Kraus cd.  She's
> quite
> >> > talented.
> >> >
> >> > DF
> >> >
> >> > Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Andrea, mine is mostly blue grass with some perennial rye in
the
> shadier
> >> > > areas.  Thanks for checking it for me!
> >> > >
> >> > > Blessings,
> >> > >
> >> > > Bonnie
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
[o*@hort.net]
> On
> >> > Behalf
> >> > > Of Andrea H
> >> > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:33 AM
> >> > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> >> > >
> >> > > let me know what kind of lawn you have and I can look it up in
my
> trusty
> >> > > 'turf management" book.
> >> > >
> >> > > Andrea H
> >> > > Beaufort, SC
> >> > > Zone 8b
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
> >> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:29 PM
> >> > > Subject: RE: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> >> > >
> >> > > > Great info, Cathy!  I imagine that applies to what we put on
our
> lawns
> >> > > after
> >> > > > a fashion, too.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Blessings,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Bonnie
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-
> gardenchat@hort.net] On
> >> > > Behalf
> >> > > > Of cathy carpenter
> >> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 3:35 PM
> >> > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> > > > Subject: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thought there might be some interest in this information on
> Nitrogen
> >> > > > application rates from our extension ag educator. It is
intended
> for
> >> > > > farmers, but contains food for thought for us all.
> >> > > > Cathy
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Begin forwarded message:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > From: Mike Roegge <roeggem@uiuc.edu>
> >> > > > > Date: Fri Feb 07, 2003  01:47:14 PM US/Central
> >> > > > > To: roeggem@uiuc.edu
> >> > > > > Subject: Nitrogen application rates
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Weekly Crop Update                  2-7-03
> >> > > > > By Mike Roegge, University of Illinois Extension,
Adams/Brown
> Unit
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >     Our featured speaker at the recently held No Till
Seminar,
> Dr.
> >> > Fred
> >> > > > > Below, presented his research on nitrogen rates. He looked
at N
> >> rates
> >> > > > > over a three-year period in a variety of cropping
situations:
> no
> >> till,
> >> > > > > conventional, C-SB and C-C rotations, on producersm fields
and
> on
> >> > > > > research farms. His objective was to determine the optimal
rate
> of
> >> > > > > nitrogen for plant yield. Not necessarily the economic
rate,
> but the
> >> > > > > rate at which, biologically, the plant quit responding.
> >> > > > >     With over 40 site years of data, his findings were that
in
> no
> >> > > > > circumstances, did the corn crop require any more than 1.2
> pounds of
> >> N
> >> > > > > per bushel of yield. For many years, this has been the U of
I
> >> > > > > recommendation. And it hasnmt changed.
> >> > > > > Actually, the average requirement was 0.9 pounds of N per
> bushel of
> >> > > > > yield. The same need was found regardless of environment
grown
> >> > (tilled,
> >> > > > > preceding crop, etc.). Interestingly enough, when plotted
> against
> >> > > > > yield, those fields that yielded the lowest required the
> highest
> >> > amount
> >> > > > > of N (per bushel). The higher the productivity of the soil,
the
> >> lower
> >> > > > > the amount of N needed per bushel of grain.
> >> > > > >     If nothing else, this work proved again, that 1.2
pounds of
> N
> >> per
> >> > > > > bushel of corn is all that is necessary. There is already
some
> >> lfluffn
> >> > > > > built into this recommendation, so making applications of
> higher
> >> rates
> >> > > > > of N only costs additional dollars and risks higher N
losses.
> >> > > > > Of course, make sure when you account for the 1.2 pounds,
you
> >> include
> >> > > > > incidental N (starter, DAP, 28%, etc.) and also take the
> soybean N
> >> > > > > credit if that was your prior crop.
> >> > > > >     We still have approximately 50% of the corn acres to
> receive
> >> > > > > nitrogen this spring. Many producers still use rates higher
> than
> >> > > > > recommended as insurance against the year when crop yields
go
> >> through
> >> > > > > the roof. They donmt want to get caught short. However,
based
> upon
> >> > this
> >> > > > > research, and on other N research conducted by the U of I,
> there is
> >> no
> >> > > > > need to lfluffn your N rate. Data from Dr. Bob Hoeft over
an 18
> year
> >> > > > > time period found similar results. He found that by
increasing
> N
> >> rate
> >> > > > > by 30-40 pounds per acre over the 1.2 pounds actually led
to
> >> decreased
> >> > > > > net income.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Mike Roegge             University of Illinois Extension
> >> > > > > 330 S. 36th Street          Adams/Brown Unit
> >> > > > > Quincy, IL 62301            r*@uiuc.edu
> >> > > > > Phone: 217-223-8380         FAX: 217-223-9368
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
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