RE: Fwd: Nitrogen application rates

Agreed Donna - she is magnificent.  No question.

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From: "Donna " <justme@prairieinet.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:14:31 -0600

>Don't ever worry about Bonnie--- she has her soul in the right place and
>can take care of herself... always... awesome lady!
>
>Donna
>
>> 
>> I know you wouldn't David.  Bonnie is the sort we all strive to be
>like.
>> The purest soul - her and Jesse both.
>> 
>> Yoda
>> 
>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
>> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Date:  Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:09:14 -0800
>> 
>> >Bonnie, I'm glad you ended that with blessings because as you know I
>was
>> teasing
>> >you a little.  Hope I didn't cast aspirations on your character.  You
>> know I
>> >would never do that to you.
>> >
>> >Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:
>> >
>> >> David, I never needed a "doobie."  Nature always was enough of a
>high.
>> >>
>> >> Blessings,
>> >>
>> >> Bonnie
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]
>On
>> Behalf
>> >> Of David Franzman
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:56 PM
>> >> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
>> >>
>> >> Oh man Bonnie, I just had this picture of you laying out in a
>field,
>> looking
>> >> up
>> >> at the sky, smoking a doobie and chilling with the music.  Sheesh,
>made
>> me
>> >> nostalgic!
>> >>
>> >> DF
>> >>
>> >> Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > There is nothing wrong with blue-grass music either.  I love to
>lay
>> on the
>> >> > blue grass and listen to the music of the wind while looking at
>what
>> >> shapes
>> >> > the clouds have made in the soft blue sky mid-summer.  (LOL)
>O.K.,
>> I've
>> >> > never REALLY grown up.  (No pun intended.)
>> >> >
>> >> > Blessings,
>> >> >
>> >> > Bonnie
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
>[o*@hort.net] On
>> >> Behalf
>> >> > Of David Franzman
>> >> > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:29 PM
>> >> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh man, I love Blue Grass.  I just got an Alison Kraus cd.  She's
>> quite
>> >> > talented.
>> >> >
>> >> > DF
>> >> >
>> >> > Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Andrea, mine is mostly blue grass with some perennial rye in
>the
>> shadier
>> >> > > areas.  Thanks for checking it for me!
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Blessings,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Bonnie
>> >> > >
>> >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
>[o*@hort.net]
>> On
>> >> > Behalf
>> >> > > Of Andrea H
>> >> > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:33 AM
>> >> > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
>> >> > >
>> >> > > let me know what kind of lawn you have and I can look it up in
>my
>> trusty
>> >> > > 'turf management" book.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Andrea H
>> >> > > Beaufort, SC
>> >> > > Zone 8b
>> >> > >
>> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
>> >> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >> > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:29 PM
>> >> > > Subject: RE: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Great info, Cathy!  I imagine that applies to what we put on
>our
>> lawns
>> >> > > after
>> >> > > > a fashion, too.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Blessings,
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Bonnie
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-
>> gardenchat@hort.net] On
>> >> > > Behalf
>> >> > > > Of cathy carpenter
>> >> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 3:35 PM
>> >> > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> > > > Subject: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Thought there might be some interest in this information on
>> Nitrogen
>> >> > > > application rates from our extension ag educator. It is
>intended
>> for
>> >> > > > farmers, but contains food for thought for us all.
>> >> > > > Cathy
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Begin forwarded message:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > From: Mike Roegge <roeggem@uiuc.edu>
>> >> > > > > Date: Fri Feb 07, 2003  01:47:14 PM US/Central
>> >> > > > > To: roeggem@uiuc.edu
>> >> > > > > Subject: Nitrogen application rates
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Weekly Crop Update                  2-7-03
>> >> > > > > By Mike Roegge, University of Illinois Extension,
>Adams/Brown
>> Unit
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >     Our featured speaker at the recently held No Till
>Seminar,
>> Dr.
>> >> > Fred
>> >> > > > > Below, presented his research on nitrogen rates. He looked
>at N
>> >> rates
>> >> > > > > over a three-year period in a variety of cropping
>situations:
>> no
>> >> till,
>> >> > > > > conventional, C-SB and C-C rotations, on producersm fields
>and
>> on
>> >> > > > > research farms. His objective was to determine the optimal
>rate
>> of
>> >> > > > > nitrogen for plant yield. Not necessarily the economic
>rate,
>> but the
>> >> > > > > rate at which, biologically, the plant quit responding.
>> >> > > > >     With over 40 site years of data, his findings were that
>in
>> no
>> >> > > > > circumstances, did the corn crop require any more than 1.2
>> pounds of
>> >> N
>> >> > > > > per bushel of yield. For many years, this has been the U of
>I
>> >> > > > > recommendation. And it hasnmt changed.
>> >> > > > > Actually, the average requirement was 0.9 pounds of N per
>> bushel of
>> >> > > > > yield. The same need was found regardless of environment
>grown
>> >> > (tilled,
>> >> > > > > preceding crop, etc.). Interestingly enough, when plotted
>> against
>> >> > > > > yield, those fields that yielded the lowest required the
>> highest
>> >> > amount
>> >> > > > > of N (per bushel). The higher the productivity of the soil,
>the
>> >> lower
>> >> > > > > the amount of N needed per bushel of grain.
>> >> > > > >     If nothing else, this work proved again, that 1.2
>pounds of
>> N
>> >> per
>> >> > > > > bushel of corn is all that is necessary. There is already
>some
>> >> lfluffn
>> >> > > > > built into this recommendation, so making applications of
>> higher
>> >> rates
>> >> > > > > of N only costs additional dollars and risks higher N
>losses.
>> >> > > > > Of course, make sure when you account for the 1.2 pounds,
>you
>> >> include
>> >> > > > > incidental N (starter, DAP, 28%, etc.) and also take the
>> soybean N
>> >> > > > > credit if that was your prior crop.
>> >> > > > >     We still have approximately 50% of the corn acres to
>> receive
>> >> > > > > nitrogen this spring. Many producers still use rates higher
>> than
>> >> > > > > recommended as insurance against the year when crop yields
>go
>> >> through
>> >> > > > > the roof. They donmt want to get caught short. However,
>based
>> upon
>> >> > this
>> >> > > > > research, and on other N research conducted by the U of I,
>> there is
>> >> no
>> >> > > > > need to lfluffn your N rate. Data from Dr. Bob Hoeft over
>an 18
>> year
>> >> > > > > time period found similar results. He found that by
>increasing
>> N
>> >> rate
>> >> > > > > by 30-40 pounds per acre over the 1.2 pounds actually led
>to
>> >> decreased
>> >> > > > > net income.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Mike Roegge             University of Illinois Extension
>> >> > > > > 330 S. 36th Street          Adams/Brown Unit
>> >> > > > > Quincy, IL 62301            r*@uiuc.edu
>> >> > > > > Phone: 217-223-8380         FAX: 217-223-9368
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
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