Re: Yoda
- To: g*@hort.net
- Subject: Re: [CHAT] Yoda
- From: "Melody" m*@excite.com
- Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:17:27 -0500 (EST)
Yeah--Scooby!--It's his wicked giggle that gets me! :-)
Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
--Albert Einstein
--- On Wed 02/19, David Franzman < dfranzma@pacbell.net > wrote:
From: David Franzman [mailto: dfranzma@pacbell.net]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:15:37 -0800
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Yoda
*ahem* Scooby Doo? Didn't he once say that "Life is nasty, brutish and short!"
DF
Melody wrote:
> Pam: Speaking of Yoda...did you know my three favorite spiritual gurus
> after Jesus of course are Yoda, Scooby Doo, and Guinan (a character from
> Star Trek The Next Generation)...together they speak volumes to me about
> wisdom, joy, and feminine empowerment. So I'm most pleased to have a
> friend who embodies the spiritual "voice" of Yoda. :-)
>
> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
>
> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> --Albert Einstein
>
> --- On Tue 02/18, Pamela J. Evans < gardenqueen@gbronline.com > wrote:
> From: Pamela J. Evans [mailto: gardenqueen@gbronline.com]
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:08:52 -0600
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
>
> I know you wouldn't David. Bonnie is the sort we all strive to be like. The purest soul - her and Jesse both.
>
> Yoda
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:09:14 -0800
>
> >Bonnie, I'm glad you ended that with blessings because as you know I was teasing
> >you a little. Hope I didn't cast aspirations on your character. You know I
> >would never do that to you.
> >
> >Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:
> >
> >> David, I never needed a "doobie." Nature always was enough of a high.
> >>
> >> Blessings,
> >>
> >> Bonnie
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
> >> Of David Franzman
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:56 PM
> >> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> >>
> >> Oh man Bonnie, I just had this picture of you laying out in a field, looking
> >> up
> >> at the sky, smoking a doobie and chilling with the music. Sheesh, made me
> >> nostalgic!
> >>
> >> DF
> >>
> >> Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:
> >>
> >> > There is nothing wrong with blue-grass music either. I love to lay on the
> >> > blue grass and listen to the music of the wind while looking at what
> >> shapes
> >> > the clouds have made in the soft blue sky mid-summer. (LOL) O.K., I've
> >> > never REALLY grown up. (No pun intended.)
> >> >
> >> > Blessings,
> >> >
> >> > Bonnie
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> >> Behalf
> >> > Of David Franzman
> >> > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:29 PM
> >> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> >> >
> >> > Oh man, I love Blue Grass. I just got an Alison Kraus cd. She's quite
> >> > talented.
> >> >
> >> > DF
> >> >
> >> > Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Andrea, mine is mostly blue grass with some perennial rye in the shadier
> >> > > areas. Thanks for checking it for me!
> >> > >
> >> > > Blessings,
> >> > >
> >> > > Bonnie
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> >> > Behalf
> >> > > Of Andrea H
> >> > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:33 AM
> >> > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> >> > >
> >> > > let me know what kind of lawn you have and I can look it up in my trusty
> >> > > 'turf management" book.
> >> > >
> >> > > Andrea H
> >> > > Beaufort, SC
> >> > > Zone 8b
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
> >> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:29 PM
> >> > > Subject: RE: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> >> > >
> >> > > > Great info, Cathy! I imagine that applies to what we put on our lawns
> >> > > after
> >> > > > a fashion, too.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Blessings,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Bonnie
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> >> > > Behalf
> >> > > > Of cathy carpenter
> >> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 3:35 PM
> >> > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> > > > Subject: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thought there might be some interest in this information on Nitrogen
> >> > > > application rates from our extension ag educator. It is intended for
> >> > > > farmers, but contains food for thought for us all.
> >> > > > Cathy
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Begin forwarded message:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > From: Mike Roegge <roeggem@uiuc.edu>
> >> > > > > Date: Fri Feb 07, 2003 01:47:14 PM US/Central
> >> > > > > To: roeggem@uiuc.edu
> >> > > > > Subject: Nitrogen application rates
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Weekly Crop Update 2-7-03
> >> > > > > By Mike Roegge, University of Illinois Extension, Adams/Brown Unit
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Our featured speaker at the recently held No Till Seminar, Dr.
> >> > Fred
> >> > > > > Below, presented his research on nitrogen rates. He looked at N
> >> rates
> >> > > > > over a three-year period in a variety of cropping situations: no
> >> till,
> >> > > > > conventional, C-SB and C-C rotations, on producersm fields and on
> >> > > > > research farms. His objective was to determine the optimal rate of
> >> > > > > nitrogen for plant yield. Not necessarily the economic rate, but the
> >> > > > > rate at which, biologically, the plant quit responding.
> >> > > > > With over 40 site years of data, his findings were that in no
> >> > > > > circumstances, did the corn crop require any more than 1.2 pounds of
> >> N
> >> > > > > per bushel of yield. For many years, this has been the U of I
> >> > > > > recommendation. And it hasnmt changed.
> >> > > > > Actually, the average requirement was 0.9 pounds of N per bushel of
> >> > > > > yield. The same need was found regardless of environment grown
> >> > (tilled,
> >> > > > > preceding crop, etc.). Interestingly enough, when plotted against
> >> > > > > yield, those fields that yielded the lowest required the highest
> >> > amount
> >> > > > > of N (per bushel). The higher the productivity of the soil, the
> >> lower
> >> > > > > the amount of N needed per bushel of grain.
> >> > > > > If nothing else, this work proved again, that 1.2 pounds of N
> >> per
> >> > > > > bushel of corn is all that is necessary. There is already some
> >> lfluffn
> >> > > > > built into this recommendation, so making applications of higher
> >> rates
> >> > > > > of N only costs additional dollars and risks higher N losses.
> >> > > > > Of course, make sure when you account for the 1.2 pounds, you
> >> include
> >> > > > > incidental N (starter, DAP, 28%, etc.) and also take the soybean N
> >> > > > > credit if that was your prior crop.
> >> > > > > We still have approximately 50% of the corn acres to receive
> >> > > > > nitrogen this spring. Many producers still use rates higher than
> >> > > > > recommended as insurance against the year when crop yields go
> >> through
> >> > > > > the roof. They donmt want to get caught short. However, based upon
> >> > this
> >> > > > > research, and on other N research conducted by the U of I, there is
> >> no
> >> > > > > need to lfluffn your N rate. Data from Dr. Bob Hoeft over an 18 year
> >> > > > > time period found similar results. He found that by increasing N
> >> rate
> >> > > > > by 30-40 pounds per acre over the 1.2 pounds actually led to
> >> decreased
> >> > > > > net income.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Mike Roegge University of Illinois Extension
> >> > > > > 330 S. 36th Street Adams/Brown Unit
> >> > > > > Quincy, IL 62301 r*@uiuc.edu
> >> > > > > Phone: 217-223-8380 FAX: 217-223-9368
> >> > > >
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> Pam Evans
> Kemp TX/zone 8A
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