Re: Re: RE: the recent political discussion

Yes Linda. What Kitty said. We don't want you to leave. I, personally, have learned a lot from you...and printed out some of your answers to put in my gardening journal. You add so much. I was sad to read your e-mail. We are all human, and have our moments where we don't see eye to eye. But that's what I love about this group. We can agree to disagree!

Jesse Rene' Bell
Claremore, OK
Zone 6


From: Kitty <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: [CHAT] Re: RE: the recent political discussion
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:00:18 -0500 (EST)

I appreciate all the "well put"s, but I also want to tell Linda how much
we appreciate her input. No one is ganging up against her opinion - we
respect it and her right to share it. I personally hope she stays with
us. Linda, you have a lot to share and we would be the poorer without
it. We can handle your rants if you can handle ours. Seems fair to me.


Kitty

Original message attached.


If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.
Very well put, Kitty - I was wondering myself where the fear and hate
came from... I did not find it in the original post.  Thank you for this
response,

Libby

-----Original Message-----
From: Kitty Morrissy
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Sent: 2/18/2003 2:48 PM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] the recent political discussion

In defense of the person who sent the mail suggesting where and why to
buy
gas, I did not consider it junk email.  Neither was it fueled by fear or
hate.  I considered it to have come from a concerned person who wanted
to
support companies who conduct business in a manner she considers
appropriate and to stop handing over her hard-earned money to companies
whose business practices offend her.

For example, I chose years ago to stop flying Northwest Airlines (losing
an
abundance of frequent flier miles) because Northwest flies in their
cargo
holds virtually all the wild-caught primates from Africa to the US
research
labs.

We the little people often feel powerless, yet we want to do something
constructive.  I can't stop research labs from experimenting on
primates.
I can't stop Ugandans from killing each other.  I can't stop terrorists
from bombing us.  And I can't stop Gail Norton and her cronies from
destroying the very land she is paid to protect.  But I really would
like
to be able to do something about it, no matter how small.

I do not expect everyone to agree with my views and I respect everyone's
right to speak their mind.  If I don't agree, I've got a delete key.  I
don't want any of you, even the most thin-skinned, to feel offended.  It
has never been my intention to hurt anyone on this list.  But I also
hope
that all of us would believe the same of each other.  Still, if others'
opinions have proved too much for you to bear, go ahead and take a
breather
and come back when you can.  We will have truly missed you.  We'll
welcome
you back.  But be forewarned, we may still have opinions.

Kitty

> [Original Message]
> From: Linda <lja@direcway.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 2/18/2003 11:34:53 AM
> Subject: [CHAT] the recent political discussion
>
> Hello gardening friends--
>
> I want to thank those of you who have written to me asking me to stay
on
the
> list.  That was kind.  Pam suggested I sleep on my decision, and that
I
have
> done.
>
> When we started using this list it was understood that there was no
'off
> topic', and so I was prepared for that.  But nothing in my make-up
prepares
> me to accept junk e-mail that fuels hate in the world.  I came of age
during
> the civil rights era, and have worked my entire life to fight
discrimination
> whenever it touched my family's life or a community I lived in.  I see
that
> while I was sleeping, some have you have discovered, as I did the
first
time
> I saw this e-mail, that it is a fraud.  I guess it's good to reject it
on
> that basis, but I would feel better about the future of our country if
you
> had rejected it because it was obviously premised on fear and hate.
It's
> the same premise that prejudice has always had:  if some Saudis hurt
us,
> then all Saudis are bad and deserve to be hurt by us.  Stereotyping to
> engender hate and fear of a whole group, then suggesting action to act
it
> out.  Every step we take in the direction takes Al Qaeda closer to
victory.
>
> So that is why I reacted strongly to the junk e-mail.  I agree with
some
of
> you who have said it is natural for a group like this one to want to
discuss
> major events and air our feelings.  There is merit in that, but this
went
> beyond the limits I can endure without expressing my feelings.
>
> I think I will still leave the list.  I am too busy and too grouchy
right
> now to contribute positively.  Perhaps in the spring I'll decide to
come
> back.  My best to you all.
>
> Linda in SE Wyoming

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