RE: /bottle brush/ now hawthorn

Interesting...I've just started planting Washington hawthorns (Crataegus
phaenopyrum) to give songbirds protection against starlings, provide some
more winter interest and decoration source with the berries, and more of a
screen between me and neighbors.  They are ok but allow their five dogs to
roam...I tire of shoveling up dog poop and distressing over dug up plants. 
We have a split rail fence around the property but it doesn't deter the
dogs.   I've seen a row of hawthorns in full berry during the winter and
loved the look.

Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN




> [Original Message]
> From: Bonnie & Bill Morgan <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 02/02/2004 5:59:44 PM
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] /bottle brush/ now hawthorn
>
> I would love to replace those Hawthorn's with a "thornless" variety, but
> they are on my neighbor's lot.  I just end up having to remove tons of
> seedlings every spring on my side.
>
> Blessings,
> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf
> Of Kitty
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:08 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] /bottle brush/ now hawthorn
>
> You might consider:
> Thornless Cockspur Hawthorn, Crataegus crusgalli var. inermis
>
> Kitty
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:44 PM
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] /bottle brush/ now hawthorn
>
>
> > Just keep in mind the sub-word "thorn" in Hawthorn.  They have some
deadly
> > thorns, especially in spring before the leaves come out in full leaf!
> They
> > are a "scrap" tree here and self seed in any open ground they can find.
> > They do have lovely flowers in the spring when they bloom.  The several
at
> > the border of our property do not bloom every year.  They do grow
rapidly,
> > though!  I'm sure the ones we have here are "wild" versions and perhaps
> > those purchased through a reputable nursery might have more endearing
> > attributes.
> >
> > Blessings,
> > Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5) Where we got up to a whopping 9 F. today!  (No
> > gardening today--except garden shows on TV!)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> Behalf
> > Of Theresa
> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:18 AM
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Subject: RE: [CHAT] /bottle brush/ now hawthorn
> >
> > Somehow I totally missed the change in topic to the hawthorn- but
checked
> > out the link- it is really a lovely tree.  Someday the Modesto Ash in my
> > front yard will croak, and I'd love to replace it with other more
> attactive
> > and less pest-prone trees.  Also, having a true deciduous tree would be
> > nice-  this deal of dropping part of it's leaves for months at a time is
> > crazy.  Our front looks like a disaster from Nov- April.
> >
> > Theresa
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
> > Behalf Of Betsy Kelson
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 6:56 AM
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] update on garden/bottle brush
> >
> >
> > HEllo Donna,
> >
> >     I had a beautiful Winter King growing outside the garden Center
window
> > in Terre Haute In. The robins and cedar waxwings loved the huge clusters
> of
> > red-orange berries. In fact the waxwing flock cleaned the entire tree in
> > about 15 minutes.
> >
> > I think this is a great tree.
> >
> > betsy
> > colorado
> > only 1 1/2" of snow from the weekend boo hoo
> > >
> > > On the deciduous end, Chris wrote a Plant of the Month article about
> > > Crataegus viridis 'Winter King'  (hawthorn) that makes it sound a
> > > most interesting plant if you wanted to use something more tree like
> > > - and I think hawthorns can be pruned to hedges as well.   I don't
> > > know if birds like the berrys, but it sure seems a 4-season plant.
> > > I've never grown one; can't actually say I've ever seen one; don't
> > > think they like my climate.
> > >
> > > http://www.hort.net/profile/ros/craviwk/
> > >
> > > Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> > > mtalt@hort.net
> > > Editor:  Gardening in Shade
> >
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