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Re: tax/public schools


I have asked the same questions of our university here.  But,
unfortunately, there is a strong link between power house football teams
and the amount of donations to the rest of a state university.  Many people
will not give just to "research"...they want circuses with it.

Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN




> [Original Message]
> From: james singer <jsinger@igc.org>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 02/06/2004 3:30:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT]tax/public schools
>
> This Iowa "experience" was mentioned in the article. Most [maybe all]  
> of the 650 were the alums who "contribute" to the school, earmarking  
> their funds for--guess what?--football. Quid pro quo. And the school  
> let the athletic department [clearly a loose cannon] squander it's  
> income from the bowl game. But this happens at most school that are  
> "football power" wannabes. Main focus of the NYTimes article was the  
> University of South Florida, a Tampa establishment. Before the yahoo  
> alums began bribing it to institute a national championship football  
> program, it called itself "a research university."
>
>
> On Friday, February 6, 2004, at 02:52 AM, Melody wrote:
>
> > Yeah...black hole in a school's budget, indeed...am currently wondering
> > how much of the million or so dollars the Hawkeyes got for their bowl
> > appearance is left after the athletic department financed the entire
> > trip for 650 people...Always ticks me off, especially since I live and
> > work in the University of Iowa's home community, that the athletic
> > department here gets to keep every single dime of revenue they bring
> > in...it is not considered part of the general fund of the state of Iowa
> > or the University of Iowa and while they can afford to pay millions of
> > dollars in salaries to coaches, the state is going ever deeper in debt,
> > the cost of tuition at the 3 state universities gets increased every
> > year, the state of Iowa has the 50th worst salaries for nurses in the
> > nation, our public schools all over the state are faced with major
> > budget shortfalls, etc...and yet millions of dollars every year is
> > retained by the athletic departments of our 3 state universities...ooh!
> > obviously we've hit a nerve and I'll shut up now!! Better send some
> > Valium my way, too!
> >
> >
> >
> > Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> >
> > "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> > --Albert Einstein
> >
> >  --- On Thu 02/05, james singer < jsinger@igc.org > wrote:
> > From: james singer [mailto: jsinger@igc.org]
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 18:08:05 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT]tax/public schools
> >
> > Hi, Ceres. Sorry, but I don't buy that line about football supporting
> > <br>other sports. Earlier this year, there was an economic analysis in
> > the <br>New York Times magazine that documented that football is a  
> > black
> > hole <br>in any school's budget. Needless to say, such treasonous
> > information is <br>ignored in my area.<br><br><br><br>On Thursday,
> > February 5, 2004, at 01:06 PM, Cersgarden@aol.com wrote:<br><br>> In a
> > message dated 2/5/04 11:19:04 AM, gardenqueen@gbronline.com <br>>
> > writes:<br>><br>> << Down here they spend way too much<br>> time and
> > money on football >><br>><br>> Pam, in our area and would assume this
> > would be true in Texas, football<br>> supports its self and other less
> > profitable sports. My granddaughters <br>> attend a<br>> school that
> > generally make to state thus receive monies that fund <br>> other
> > activities<br>> such as drama, debate, etc. I do think sports are very
> > important in <br>> the<br>> development of a well rounded student. I
> > think there are students that <br>> live for<br>> sports and is an
> > incentive to keep their grades up. Sports have great <br>>  
> > learning<br>>
> > opportunities but as most things they do often have a negative side.
> > <br>> My<br>> granddaughters are involved in school sponsored
> > volleyball, <br>> basketball, golf,<br>> cheerleading (which is now
> > considered a sport) and softball so they <br>> are in sports at<br>>  
> > all
> > times of the year and over lapping at times yet they are honor <br>>
> > students.<br>> Golf was a sport they began to play at age 3 and played
> > as a family and<br>> competed in non-school competition (golf is only
> > offered at hi school <br>> level). This<br>> is a sport that they will
> > always be able to enjoy.<br>> Swimming is a great sport but seldom gets
> > much attention. This is <br>> a<br>> sport that is ill attended, no
> > chearleaders but one that requires much <br>> hard work<br>> and
> > gruesome practices. My son was a competitive swimmer with 6 am <br>>
> > winter time<br>> swims. This is another sport that one can enjoy for
> > life. <br>> Unfortunately my<br>
> >
> >> granddaughters attend a small school which does not offer this <br>>
> > opportunity.<br>> Ceres<br>><br>>
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