Re: Happy Birthday!
- To: <g*@hort.net>
- Subject: Re: [CHAT] Happy Birthday!
- From: &* J* E* <g*@gbronline.com>
- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:01:19 -0600
I'm wholly aware of that - that's why I didn't go there. Not up to it thank you. I admire those of you who are though.
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From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 14:05:02 -0600
>Thanks. I try. No such thing as a perfect parent (or spouse) but I do the
>best I know how to do. But I'll tell ya....parenthood is the toughest gig
>there is. NOTHING easy about it.
>
>
>>From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Happy Birthday!
>>Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 19:07:38 -0600
>>
>>She is indeed. Believe it.
>>
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>>From: "pdickson" <pdickson@sbcglobal.net>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 16:57:02 -0600
>>
>> >Jesse,
>> >I have a 30 year old daughter whom I love being around now too but
>>somewhere
>> >around 12-13 she changed.... I now have a 15 year old son. I think he
>>was a
>> >little slower at changing.
>> >I think you sound like a wonderful mother... keep up the GREAT work!
>> >Patricia
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
>> >To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 12:42 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Happy Birthday!
>> >
>> >
>> >> When I was a single mother...and BROKE...my three children new what a
>> >budget
>> >> was...I bought enough groceries for the week...if they ate more than
>>the
>> >> "allotted" share for school lunches, then they didn't get a juice box
>>or
>> >> cookies on Friday. They were doing laundry, vacuuming, helping with
>> >dishes,
>> >> mowing and all that. It's that "magical" number....around 15 or 16
>>where
>> >> they THINK they are helping you, but not without major attitude and
>> >rolling
>> >> of eyes, and they do a half-assed job and don't "get it" when I tell
>>them
>> >to
>> >> do it again, only BETTER this time. Yours are still young. I'll bet
>> >money
>> >> on it when they get older you'll see that change in them. It's just
>>part
>> >of
>> >> being a teenager. They are also at that age where they push you to the
>> >> limit. Curfew for the 15 year olds is 11:00 on Friday/Saturday
>>(football
>> >> games, basketball games, school dances). The other night...they
>>dragged
>> >> home at almost 1:00 a.m. At 7:00 a.m I had their butts up and said,
>>"if
>> >you
>> >> keep me up till 1:00 worrying, then you get to get up early, feed ALL
>>the
>> >> animals and help around the house...and there will be NO naps today!"
>> >They
>> >> were in bed that night at 8:30. And grounded. It's just part of
>>raising
>> >a
>> >> houseful of teenagers. I was prepared. When I married DH, his first
>>two
>> >> children were 15 and 17. It was baptism by fire for me. You're
>>supposed
>> >to
>> >> "gradually grow into the teen years". Well, I didn't get to do that.
>> >They
>> >> were awful. But now...I love being around them.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
>> >> >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Happy Birthday!
>> >> >Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 19:32:17 -0500 (EST)
>> >> >
>> >> >Jesse: Just another tip...you might try the "If I'm cleaning then
>> >> >everybody is cleaning" routine, too...meaning no one goes anywhere or
>> >> >does anything, not even talk on the phone, until and unless what needs
>> >> >to be done around the house gets done...with a group effort. You might
>> >> >also want to tell your kids that at half their ages, my 3 already know
>> >> >how to use all the major household appliances (dishwasher, washing
>> >> >machine, dryer, microwave, vacuum, stove/oven) and use them on a
>>routine
>> >> >(i.e. daily/weekly) basis...I gave up being a martyr mom a long time
>> >> >ago, too...course I must admit, that if I want the kids' rooms to be
>> >> >**really** clean...that's a whole other experience so I've learned to
>> >> >lower my standards a little when it comes to how the kids clean their
>> >> >own rooms. Good luck with your strike...and hang in...children and
>> >> >husbands are capable of learning new tricks!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
>> >> >
>> >> >"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
>> >> >--Albert Einstein
>> >> >
>> >> > --- On Sat 02/07, Jesse Bell < jesserenebell@hotmail.com > wrote:
>> >> >From: Jesse Bell [mailto: jesserenebell@hotmail.com]
>> >> >To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:16:57 -0600
>> >> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Happy Birthday!
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks! And no, you don't sound preachy at all. It's just the truth.
>> >> >I've <br>hit that point in my life where my family thinks I've gone
>> >> >insane and <br>"changed". LOL. Because I've gone on strike.
>> >> >When they ask "what's for <br>dinner?" I say "I don't
>> >> >know, what are you fixing?" When my husband can't <br>find clothes
>> >> >I say "I don't know, ask the laundry fairy what she did with
>> >> ><br>it". It dawned on me that I have a house full of teenagers and
>> >> >a husband <br>who think they can't do anything. The youngest three are
>> >> >all 15 years old. <br>The other is 17. The oldest two are gone. I work
>> >> >outside the home. So <br>does my husband. So why should I be the one
>>who
>> >> >plans dinners, does all the <br>laundry and somehow magically know
>>where
>> >> >to find things that they have lost? <br> It escapes me. So...about two
>> >> >weeks ago, I did the "meltdown" thing and <br>gathered the
>> >> >whole family together and told them that I am not their maid or
>> >> ><br>housekeeper, I will be taking time to do the things that I want to
>> >> >do and if <br>that bothers them, TOO BAD! They always seem to find
>>time
>> >> >to do what they <br>want to do, but I'm the one stuck cleaning the
>>house
>> >> >and such. NO MORE. I <br>told my husband if he wants a clean and
>> >> >spotless house, then get after it or <br>hire a housecleaner. I will
>>do
>> >> >SOME, but not ALL anymore. And I warned <br>them that gardening season
>> >> >is around the corner and if they need <br>me...they'll know where to
>> >> >find me...and it WON'T be in the house. I've <br>heard this happens to
>> >> >women when they hit the menopausal years.....well....I <br>guess it
>>hit
>> >> >me. I do NOT have to do this anymore. They are all quite <br>capable
>>of
>> >> >doing it themselves. I am not Saint Jesse the martyr. If they <br>want
>> >> >something...learn to do it themselves. End of discussion. So, now
>> >> ><br>they think I've become this grouchy person. OH
>> >> >well.<br><br><br><br>Jesse Rene' Bell<br>Claremore, OK<br>Zone
>> >> >6<br><br><br><br><br><br>>From: Aplfgcnys@aol.com<br>>Reply-To:
>> >> >gardenchat@
>> >> >
>> >> >hort.net<br>>To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Happy
>> >> >Birthday!<br>>Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 12:17:11
>> >> >EST<br>><br>>Belated Happy Birthday, Jesse. Here's hoping it was a
>> >> >good one. Don't <br>>give<br>>up your dreams for your own business
>> >> >- time passes more quickly than you <br>>would<br>>believe. I do
>> >> >know that from your perspective, you young women think
>> >> >your<br>>hectic over-crowded days with a houseful will never end, but
>> >> >kids do grow <br>>up<br>>eventually (sometimes it takes longer
>> >> >than you expect) and the days do come <br>>when<br>>you can do
>> >> >those things you dream about. Just have faith. Forgive me if
>> >> >I<br>>sound "preachy," but I've been there.
>> >>
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