RE: health care> circus?

You worked for a circus??

Theresa

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show of hands. how many on this list are or have been employed by the
health care-industrial complex?
i spent a good bit of time there myself, beginning with the onset of
medicaid [federal government] in the late 60s to covering the politics of
health for national journal in the 70s to running migrant-worker clinics in
the 80s to writing medicare coding manuals in the early 90s. i was never so
glad to change career fields as i was the day i became editor of corporate
governance digest in 1992.

from there to running a landscape nursery data base was easy--although
there was that 9-month detour when i worked for a circus.


At 03:34 PM 1/2/03, you wrote:
>I would recommend to all interested in a cross cultural view of this issue
>that they find the (likely out of print) book - Medicine and Culture:
>Varieties of Treatment in the United States, England, West Germany, and
>France, by Lynn Payer. This book explores the interesting fact that the
>above countries have equivalent life expectancies, but that medical
>treatments differ enormously.
>Cathy
>On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, at 06:51 PM, Melody wrote:
>
>>The absolute worst offenders with antibiotics are consumers and
>>practitioners who demand and allow treatment for viral illnesses such as
>>the common cold with antibiotics that are meant only for bacterial
>>illnesses. What do you suppose we are doing to ourselves with
>>antibacterial handsoaps, lotions, plastics, sponges, dish detergents,
>>toys, etc....Exposing every day germs to antibacterial agents such as
>>these is insane!!! The human body is a host to multitudes of bacterial
>>strains that are supposed to be there! Killing them off-- this is what
>>allows supergerms to breed. That and the fact that most people who are
>>prescribed a ten day course of antibiotics only bother to take it for
>>half of the prescribed ten days...thus killing off only the body's
>>normal bacteria while allowing the proliferation of the bad bacteria to
>>become supergerms that take over and cause superinfections. And if
>>consumers don't want their meats/milks/vegetables/etc. pumped full of
>>antibiotics then why aren't more people actively pursuing other avenues,
>>including lobbying your local/state/federal legislators to outlaw this?
>>People like to complain alot about this, but don't really want to get
>>involved personally in stopping it...And as far as nurses are
>>concerned...good handwashing is the key to preventing most of their
>>troubles with bacteria but fully 70% of nurse's wedding bands/rings are
>>infected with strains of germs that could cause serious problems for
>>thier patients because they fail to do it well enough...And I can't
>>speak for other nurses, but I always keep my face well away from any IV
>>bag I'm spiking just on principle!!
>>
>>
>>Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
>
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