Re: herbs > antibiotics > health care
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- From: jim singer j*@igc.org
- Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 19:33:22 -0500
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this seems like a good place to say that when i worked for the circus, i worked in the home office, mostly managing the home-base side of the logistics of a road trip. and that the people i worked with were, without doubt, the largest collection of humorless people i have ever had the misfortune to know.
At 02:53 PM 1/3/03, you wrote:
Worked for a circus eh? Hum....now that's interesting! I wonder how many of us have worked in numerous fields? I sort of look at my medical background as partly self defense. I learned a few things as a horse breeder and a few more things in the hotel industry and art industry. Mostly I think I learned that none are as easy or quite as glamorous as they seem. I value the lessons I learned there though. Nora ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim singer" <jsinger@igc.org> To: <gardenchat@hort.net> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [CHAT] herbs > antibiotics > health care > show of hands. how many on this list are or have been employed by the > health care-industrial complex? > i spent a good bit of time there myself, beginning with the onset of > medicaid [federal government] in the late 60s to covering the politics of > health for national journal in the 70s to running migrant-worker clinics in > the 80s to writing medicare coding manuals in the early 90s. i was never so > glad to change career fields as i was the day i became editor of corporate > governance digest in 1992. > > from there to running a landscape nursery data base was easy--although > there was that 9-month detour when i worked for a circus. > > > At 03:34 PM 1/2/03, you wrote: > >I would recommend to all interested in a cross cultural view of this issue > >that they find the (likely out of print) book - Medicine and Culture: > >Varieties of Treatment in the United States, England, West Germany, and > >France, by Lynn Payer. This book explores the interesting fact that the > >above countries have equivalent life expectancies, but that medical > >treatments differ enormously. > >Cathy > >On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, at 06:51 PM, Melody wrote: > > > >>The absolute worst offenders with antibiotics are consumers and > >>practitioners who demand and allow treatment for viral illnesses such as > >>the common cold with antibiotics that are meant only for bacterial > >>illnesses. What do you suppose we are doing to ourselves with > >>antibacterial handsoaps, lotions, plastics, sponges, dish detergents, > >>toys, etc....Exposing every day germs to antibacterial agents such as > >>these is insane!!! The human body is a host to multitudes of bacterial > >>strains that are supposed to be there! Killing them off-- this is what > >>allows supergerms to breed. That and the fact that most people who are > >>prescribed a ten day course of antibiotics only bother to take it for > >>half of the prescribed ten days...thus killing off only the body's > >>normal bacteria while allowing the proliferation of the bad bacteria to > >>become supergerms that take over and cause superinfections. And if > >>consumers don't want their meats/milks/vegetables/etc. pumped full of > >>antibiotics then why aren't more people actively pursuing other avenues, > >>including lobbying your local/state/federal legislators to outlaw this? > >>People like to complain alot about this, but don't really want to get > >>involved personally in stopping it...And as far as nurses are > >>concerned...good handwashing is the key to preventing most of their > >>troubles with bacteria but fully 70% of nurse's wedding bands/rings are > >>infected with strains of germs that could cause serious problems for > >>thier patients because they fail to do it well enough...And I can't > >>speak for other nurses, but I always keep my face well away from any IV > >>bag I'm spiking just on principle!! > >> > >> > >>Melody, IA (Z 5/4) > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the > >message text UNSUBSCRIBE GARDENCHAT > > jsinger@igc.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the > message text UNSUBSCRIBE GARDENCHAT --------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the message text UNSUBSCRIBE GARDENCHAT
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