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Re: birds/feeding routine

I'm in Kemp TX which is roughly 50 miles South East of Dallas. This is
kind of in between North, East and Central Texas and has certain
characteristics of each. Since I turned my entire backyard into a bird
and butterfly sanctuary, I have been richly rewarded w/ both. And their
numbers grow every year. This area is mostly rural, ranches and farms.
The town is VERY tiny (ask Jesse) and our reservior Cedar Creek Lake is
less than two miles away. Most of my birds are here year round, but I
see more in the winter, like goldfinches and such.

And God only knows where all these grackles (sp?) came from!!

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Bonnie M. Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Sat, 04 Jan 2003 06:58:25 -0500

>Pam, Thanks, I am doing similarly.  I have deciduous holly, beauty berry, 
>lots of viburnums (they do so well here), and don't clean out my heavily 
>seeding flowers until spring.  The WSJ article was interesting...cautioned 
>about the impact of feeding birds but also mentioned the reduction of 
>supporting environment due to suburban sprawl...I know too well that good 
>intentions can result in unexpected negative results...I am thinking about 
>the efforts to increase the wild goose population which is now successful 
>to the point that it reduces environment for other species.  I guess my 
>feeding at this point is more supplemental to our birds since I have not 
>seen any changes in species visiting over the years, nor any increases in 
>one over others.  They could not survive on just what I put out.   What is 
>your location?
>Bonnie 6+ ETN
>At 08:31 AM 1/1/03 -0600, you wrote:
>>Bonnie - my birdies seem to do very well when only fed in the winter.  I 
>>start filling my feeder around Thanksgiving and March 1st start cutting 
>>them back gradually until April 1st when there are lots of bugs and things 
>>blooming for them to enjoy.  You'd have to alter your timetable to suit 
>>your area.  Start when your first frost hits (or when it's supposed to, we 
>>don't always get a heavy frost) and start cutting back on your last frost 
>>date.  I use a mixture of regular wild bird seed, black oil sunflower and 
>>thistle seed, about 1 part each.  My cardinals and mourning doves are fat 
>>as little toads, they're TOO cute.
>>My feeder is up high and too close to the house for cats to get it, also 
>>hawks won't come this close to a dwelling.  Every once in a while I catch 
>>a stray cat prowling the back of the yard staring at my birdies.  The 
>>water hose sends them flying off at light speed.  And they rarely come 
>>back, you know how they hate water and it doesn't hurt them just to get 
>>wet.  I don't deadhead any of my purple coneflowers or rudbeckias late in 
>>the season so they have "natural" food sources too and all my berrying 
>>shrubs get picked clean, usually before I get to enjoy the show, but 
>>that's why I planted them (viburnums, mahonias, beautyberry).  This all 
>>seems to work beautifully, I have more birds year round every year.  I 
>>must have 15 or 20 mourning doves now and used to just have a pair.  They 
>>like to get in all my beds, make depressions in the mulch and sun 
>>themselves.  So this works, at least here.  Hope that helps!  Happy 2003!
>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>From: "Bonnie M. Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>Date:  Wed, 01 Jan 2003 08:26:02 -0500
>> >Also saw the WSJ article.  I don't fill my feeders during the warmer
>> >weather when insects are out...feed during the winter, after some
>> >frosts.  I am wondering if that will help with the problem...the birds have
>> >to rely on nature during 3/4 of the year...I have tried to include some
>> >native plants that provide food for birds and butterflies.  The article
>> >also pointed out that predators (cats and hawks, for example) use the
>> >feeders as a stakeout for birds.  Also, that since many feeders are near
>> >buildings, birds often fly into buildings, killing or incapacitating
>> >themselves.  So far, I have not seen the cats very successful...don't know
>> >about the hawks...my feeders are under some canopies so the smaller birds
>> >have more cover.  Any thoughts?
>> >
>> >Bonnie 6+ ETN
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >At 01:35 PM 12/29/02 -0500, you wrote:
>> >>Cathy,
>> >>Maybe it's an urban legend, but I understood that birds don't feed seeds to
>> >>their babes: they can't process it for that purpose.  They need insects and
>> >>worms.    But then, I haven't read the WSJ article.   My theory had been
>> >>that the birds would eat at the feeder for themselves and go on to gather
>> >>insects to feed their young.
>> >>Janet
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>on 12/29/2002 10:39 AM, Donna at justme@prairieinet.net wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Cathy,
>> >> > I go thru a lot of seed... don't think cooking it would work here.
>> >> >
>> >> > Did not see the article in WSJ. Hightlights? Seems the birds around here
>> >> > find enough to eat during the summer months and just munch at the bird
>> >> > feeders. Come winter they seem to depend on them.
>> >> >
>> >> > Donna
>> >> >
>> >> >> On the subject of bird feeders, did anyone read the article on that
>> >> >> subject on the front page of the Wall Street Journal? The thrust being
>> >> >> that some believe they are doing birds more harm than good.
>> >> >> Cathy
>> >> >
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