RE: mahonias/come on Spring!

Thank God fellow gardeners understand me when I say Gosh I just can't wait to get and plant this shrub!
Some non-gardening types look at me as if I've taken leave of my senses.
If the leatherleaf mahonia flourishes here, it should find your
salubrious climate an absolute Paradise!! I don't know about y'all - but
Spring cannot get here soon enough for me!!

:-D


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From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:17:20 -0800

>That helps very much- thanks for sharing.  I may just have to invest in one
>of these too.
>
>Theresa
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:36 PM
>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Subject: RE: [CHAT] pyracanthas/now mahonia
>
>
>It's kin to the Oregon grape holly but does better in clay. Though my
>mahonia aquifolium is doing well after 4 years in way amended clay in
>shade w/ a twice-yearly top dressing of lava sand to keep the soil from
>reverting to concrete. Leatherleaf (mahonia bealei) gets 5-7' tall and
>3-5' wide as a rule. They get pretty big here. They also need a less
>water than their more well known cousin. Which is dandy, because where
>I'm putting this, it won't get much supplemental water at all once it's
>established (by fall). And the soil is not amended where it's going,
>though I've had a clump of orange cannas there this year to loosen the
>soil a bit. Those are getting dug up for Rich come March and replaced w/
>this. Cannas grow great but don't bloom so much in shade. And I need
>something evergreen in this spot to block that ugly auction next door.
>They get the same yellow flowers and pretty blue berries for my birdies.
>It will be just out of reach of Sugar's tether, so they'll be safe. This
>is a most excellent shrub. Been promising myself one for years. If any
>of my viburnums along the tree line don't make it - this is what they'll
>be replaced w/. You gotta have a contingency plan when you garden in
>clay.
>
>I'm getting mine from Forest Farm, but I'm sure other vendors carry
>them, though Oregon isn't too awfully far from you. They have great
>stuff, but paying the shipping out here is ugh! Does that help??
>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Date:  Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:50:04 -0800
>
>>HI Pam- I'm not familiar with "leatherleaf" mahonia- how large to that get?
>>
>>Theresa
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>>Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:13 AM
>>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>Subject: RE: [CHAT] pyracanthas
>>
>>
>>Good girl. Would hate to see you get a bad infection there. Just as well
>>we can't grow them I suspect. I did however order myself a leatherleaf
>>mahonia for a shady spot that needed something. Only the leaves are
>>picky on those! More berries for my birdies and these shrubs actually do
>>well in clay. What a concept!
>>
>>BTW - your pics are fabulous.  Really!
>>
>>Pam
>>
>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>Date:  Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:44:42 -0800
>>
>>>I agree that they thorns are lethal- it just barely pricked my finger and
>>it
>>>is still sore and a bit swollen- I'm sure i will survive and next time I
>>>will take the extra effort to put on a pair of gloves.
>>>
>>>Theresa
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>>>Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>>>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 6:11 PM
>>>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>Subject: RE: [CHAT] pyracanthas
>>>
>>>
>>>Theresa - be careful of those thorns, they can be toxic. Howard Garrett
>>>(aka the Dirt Doctor) calls them "lethal" (his words). Cotton root rot
>>>has killed many of them in this part of the state, so I don't have any.
>>>
>>>Cotton was king here for many years, and the root rot organism remains.
>It
>>>takes out red tip photinias too.
>>>So I don't plant any cotton relatives or things that are suseptible to
>>>the same diseases. Once something gets in this black clay - it stays
>>>there for a long time apparently.
>>>
>>>
>>>Pam
>>>
>>>
>>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>>From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
>>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>Date:  Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:01:00 -0800
>>>
>>>>Thanks- I can look forward to flowers this year then!  This will be the
>>2nd
>>>>winter that I've had them and they are really filling in nicely.
>>>>
>>>>Theresa
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>>>>Behalf Of Janet Laytham
>>>>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 4:24 AM
>>>>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] lenten rose< patience and winter chores
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Theresa,
>>>>Pyracantha blooms on old wood.  In the spring I cut  the branches that
>>>>bloomed the previous winter.
>>>>Janet
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>on 01/05/2003 10:46 PM, Theresa- yahoo at tchessie@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks- I will be patient then- and a glass of wine sounds quite nice
>>>>right
>>>>> now.  I finished putting my summer veggiebed to bed for winter this AM.
>>>>> Ripped out the last 2 tomoto plants and a couple of the pepper.  Cut 2
>>>>> peppers back, we will see if they return in spring.  Piled the rest of
>>>the
>>>>> leaves on the bed, trimmed the bottlebrush back (seems like I do this
>>>>every
>>>>> 3 months it grows like a weed), also trimmed the pyracantha (still
>>>shaping
>>>>> it to grow on a trellis) and managed to poke myself with one of the
>>>>thorns.
>>>>> Those things HURT!  My finger is still sore and red in that spot.  By
>>the
>>>>> way, does anyone know if pyracantha blooms on old or new growth??  Oh,
>>>and
>>>>> some of my bulbs are starting to come up!
>>>>>
>>>>> Theresa
>>>>> Sac, Ca zone 8-9
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>>>>> Behalf Of Gene Bush
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 12:27 PM
>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Questions...nursery, ornamec, and lenten rose
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Theresa,
>>>>> Probably maturity is the issue. After germination most hellebores take
>3
>>>>> to 4 years before first bloom. Look much better at 5 years of age with
>a
>>>>few
>>>>> eyes to the crown. Most nurseries only carry the seedlings into the
>>>second
>>>>> year and then sell. That leaves you with 2 or more years to go before
>>>>bloom.
>>>>> My suggestion is to have another glass of good wine and move on to the
>>>>next
>>>>> perennial on your list. Next year you certainly should see some buds.
>>>>> Gene E. Bush
>>>>> Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc
>>>>> www.munchkinnursery.com
>>>>> genebush@munchkinnursery.com
>>>>> Zone 6/5  Southern Indiana
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> OK- why haven't my hellebores bloomed?  This is the second winter I've
>>>>had
>>>>>> them and there is not indication that they are even thinking of
>>>blooming.
>>>>> I
>>>>>> have no idea what variety they are, I have 3 plants in different
>>places-
>>>>2
>>>>>> with much shade, 1 in light shade.  Any suggestions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Theresa
>>>>
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>>>Kemp TX/zone 8A
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