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RE: pyracanthas/now mahonia

It's kin to the Oregon grape holly but does better in clay. Though my
mahonia aquifolium is doing well after 4 years in way amended clay in
shade w/ a twice-yearly top dressing of lava sand to keep the soil from
reverting to concrete. Leatherleaf (mahonia bealei) gets 5-7' tall and
3-5' wide as a rule. They get pretty big here. They also need a less
water than their more well known cousin. Which is dandy, because where
I'm putting this, it won't get much supplemental water at all once it's
established (by fall). And the soil is not amended where it's going,
though I've had a clump of orange cannas there this year to loosen the
soil a bit. Those are getting dug up for Rich come March and replaced w/
this. Cannas grow great but don't bloom so much in shade. And I need
something evergreen in this spot to block that ugly auction next door.
They get the same yellow flowers and pretty blue berries for my birdies.
It will be just out of reach of Sugar's tether, so they'll be safe. This
is a most excellent shrub. Been promising myself one for years. If any
of my viburnums along the tree line don't make it - this is what they'll
be replaced w/. You gotta have a contingency plan when you garden in

I'm getting mine from Forest Farm, but I'm sure other vendors carry
them, though Oregon isn't too awfully far from you. They have great
stuff, but paying the shipping out here is ugh! Does that help??

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:50:04 -0800

>HI Pam- I'm not familiar with "leatherleaf" mahonia- how large to that get?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
>Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:13 AM
>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Subject: RE: [CHAT] pyracanthas
>Good girl. Would hate to see you get a bad infection there. Just as well
>we can't grow them I suspect. I did however order myself a leatherleaf
>mahonia for a shady spot that needed something. Only the leaves are
>picky on those! More berries for my birdies and these shrubs actually do
>well in clay. What a concept!
>BTW - your pics are fabulous.  Really!
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Date:  Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:44:42 -0800
>>I agree that they thorns are lethal- it just barely pricked my finger and
>>is still sore and a bit swollen- I'm sure i will survive and next time I
>>will take the extra effort to put on a pair of gloves.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
>>Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 6:11 PM
>>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>Subject: RE: [CHAT] pyracanthas
>>Theresa - be careful of those thorns, they can be toxic. Howard Garrett
>>(aka the Dirt Doctor) calls them "lethal" (his words). Cotton root rot
>>has killed many of them in this part of the state, so I don't have any.
>>Cotton was king here for many years, and the root rot organism remains.  It
>>takes out red tip photinias too.
>>So I don't plant any cotton relatives or things that are suseptible to
>>the same diseases. Once something gets in this black clay - it stays
>>there for a long time apparently.
>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>Date:  Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:01:00 -0800
>>>Thanks- I can look forward to flowers this year then!  This will be the
>>>winter that I've had them and they are really filling in nicely.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
>>>Behalf Of Janet Laytham
>>>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 4:24 AM
>>>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] lenten rose< patience and winter chores
>>>Pyracantha blooms on old wood.  In the spring I cut  the branches that
>>>bloomed the previous winter.
>>>on 01/05/2003 10:46 PM, Theresa- yahoo at tchessie@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Thanks- I will be patient then- and a glass of wine sounds quite nice
>>>> now.  I finished putting my summer veggiebed to bed for winter this AM.
>>>> Ripped out the last 2 tomoto plants and a couple of the pepper.  Cut 2
>>>> peppers back, we will see if they return in spring.  Piled the rest of
>>>> leaves on the bed, trimmed the bottlebrush back (seems like I do this
>>>> 3 months it grows like a weed), also trimmed the pyracantha (still
>>>> it to grow on a trellis) and managed to poke myself with one of the
>>>> Those things HURT!  My finger is still sore and red in that spot.  By
>>>> way, does anyone know if pyracantha blooms on old or new growth??  Oh,
>>>> some of my bulbs are starting to come up!
>>>> Theresa
>>>> Sac, Ca zone 8-9
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
>>>> Behalf Of Gene Bush
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 12:27 PM
>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Questions...nursery, ornamec, and lenten rose
>>>> Hello Theresa,
>>>> Probably maturity is the issue. After germination most hellebores take 3
>>>> to 4 years before first bloom. Look much better at 5 years of age with a
>>>> eyes to the crown. Most nurseries only carry the seedlings into the
>>>> year and then sell. That leaves you with 2 or more years to go before
>>>> My suggestion is to have another glass of good wine and move on to the
>>>> perennial on your list. Next year you certainly should see some buds.
>>>> Gene E. Bush
>>>> Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc
>>>> www.munchkinnursery.com
>>>> genebush@munchkinnursery.com
>>>> Zone 6/5  Southern Indiana
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> OK- why haven't my hellebores bloomed?  This is the second winter I've
>>>>> them and there is not indication that they are even thinking of
>>>> I
>>>>> have no idea what variety they are, I have 3 plants in different
>>>>> with much shade, 1 in light shade.  Any suggestions?
>>>>> Theresa
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>>Pam Evans
>>Kemp TX/zone 8A
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>Kemp TX/zone 8A
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