Re: OT-Reverse sexism?!

Amen Andrea - I don't even want to approach that soapbox.  MMM mmm mmm.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Andrea H" <hodgesaa@islc.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:52:33 -0500

>Boy Kitty don't get me started. it always seems if you aren't married and/or
>don't have children or aren't even divorced that something must be wrong
>with you. And REALLY don't get me started on insurance and taxes for single
>people!
>
>Gggggrrrrrrrr!
>
>Andrea H
>Beaufort, SC
>Zone 8b
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Janet Laytham" <jw.laytham@worldnet.att.net>
>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
>
>
>> Kitty,
>> About 5 years ago I re-financed, and when the bank presented me with the
>> papers, the form was full of masculine pronouns: it assumed that the
>> mortgagee was a single male, I guess.  So, I started at the top and
>crossed
>> out all the "he, his, him" references and replaced each with the
>appropriate
>> feminine pronoun . It took me 10 minutes to get half way through, so I
>> finally stopped and announced to the loan officer that I had probably made
>> my point.
>>
>> When I returned to the bank a few days later, the loan officer (a woman)
>> said her management had been very upset and berated her for letting me do
>> it.  They were afraid the county clerk wouldn't accept the deed.  I
>replied
>> that the clerk was probably a woman.  Of course it was filed and accepted.
>>
>> I wonder if that bank still uses that form?
>> Janet
>>
>>
>> on 01/28/2003 6:06 PM, Kitty Morrissy at kmrsy@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>> > Jim,
>> > I guess what I should have said was that understood their use of the
>term,
>> > but didn't agree with it.
>> >
>> > I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot, lost out on a job
>to
>> > a woman who had a lot less flying time.  They said they had to hire
>women.
>> > I don't agree with that.  I also had a husband who refused to tip
>waiters;
>> > didn't want to "encourage them to stay in that line of work" because he
>> > wanted to be waited on by a cute girl.  (I always left the guy a nice
>big
>> > tip)
>> >
>> > I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms.  A salesperson called and
>> > referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not married and that it
>was
>> > bad form to assume I was.  She said she was instructed to use only Mrs.
>I
>> > resent this - as if single people don't count.  Then I received a
>Cemetery
>> > service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty Morrissy.  All 3
>> > pages of the letter described everything offered as being conditioned on
>> > the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever.  I called to tell them
>> > that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I interested in such
>> > services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.
>> >
>> > Why don't single people count?
>> >
>> > Kitty
>> >
>> >
>> >> [Original Message]
>> >> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
>> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >> Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse sexism?!
>> >>
>> >> you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of being a sexist, i think
>the
>> >> women who have carried the torch against sexist behavior by men against
>> >> women have cozened the word as their own with only their definition as
>> >> acceptable.
>> >>
>> >> i think that's why when cooler heads [or both sexes] joined the
>> > discussion,
>> >> reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.
>> >>
>> >> At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
>> >>> I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has been bugging me. What do
>> >>> you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is the same abhorant behavior
>> >>> whether it is a preference of male over female or female over male.
>> >>> Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no preference, wouldn't it?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Kitty
>>
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Kemp TX/zone 8A


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