RE: OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.

Outstanding response!  My husband and I now have the same last name- we both
changed our names.

Theresa

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
Behalf Of Island Jim
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:38 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.


when someone asked my second wife why we had different last names if we
were really married, she said it was because we had different fathers.



At 08:34 PM 1/28/03 -0800, you wrote:
>OK- I have to put in my 2 cents here.  I have never, ever understood the
>Mrs. thing- why would a woman's title change just because she got married.
>My vote is that everyone is Ms. - married or not.  This reflects gender
>(just as Mr. does) not marital status.  I am married, and still use Ms.  I
>absolutely hate is when I get mail addressed to Mrs. John Witt.- who the
>heck is that?  My name is Theresa.
>I love my husband, but I am my own person- not some appendage.
>
>Theresa
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:36 PM
>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
>
>
>People call me Mrs. Evans all the time. I tell them Mrs. Evans is my
>mother, not me. When people find out I've never been married, most are
>astounded, even in this day and age. (was engaged twice, it didn't
>"take")
>
>It's amazing, isn't it??
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Date:  Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:06:45 -0500
>
> >Jim,
> >I guess what I should have said was that understood their use of the
term,
> >but didn't agree with it.
> >
> >I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot, lost out on a job
to
> >a woman who had a lot less flying time.  They said they had to hire
women.
> >I don't agree with that.  I also had a husband who refused to tip
waiters;
> >didn't want to "encourage them to stay in that line of work" because he
> >wanted to be waited on by a cute girl.  (I always left the guy a nice big
> >tip)
> >
> >I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms.  A salesperson called and
> >referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not married and that it
was
> >bad form to assume I was.  She said she was instructed to use only Mrs.
I
> >resent this - as if single people don't count.  Then I received a
Cemetery
> >service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty Morrissy.  All 3
> >pages of the letter described everything offered as being conditioned on
> >the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever.  I called to tell them
> >that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I interested in such
> >services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.
> >
> >Why don't single people count?
> >
> >Kitty
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse sexism?!
> >>
> >> you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of being a sexist, i think
the
> >> women who have carried the torch against sexist behavior by men against
> >> women have cozened the word as their own with only their definition as
> >> acceptable.
> >>
> >> i think that's why when cooler heads [or both sexes] joined the
> >discussion,
> >> reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.
> >>
> >> At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has been bugging me. What do
> >> >you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is the same abhorant behavior
> >> >whether it is a preference of male over female or female over male.
> >> >Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no preference, wouldn't it?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Kitty
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.
> >> >
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>
>--
>Pam Evans
>Kemp TX/zone 8A
>
>
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