Re: OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
on 01/29/2003 4:37 AM, Island Jim at jsinger@igc.org wrote:
Excellent!
> when someone asked my second wife why we had different last names if we
> were really married, she said it was because we had different fathers.
>
>
>
> At 08:34 PM 1/28/03 -0800, you wrote:
>> OK- I have to put in my 2 cents here. I have never, ever understood the
>> Mrs. thing- why would a woman's title change just because she got married.
>> My vote is that everyone is Ms. - married or not. This reflects gender
>> (just as Mr. does) not marital status. I am married, and still use Ms. I
>> absolutely hate is when I get mail addressed to Mrs. John Witt.- who the
>> heck is that? My name is Theresa.
>> I love my husband, but I am my own person- not some appendage.
>>
>> Theresa
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>> Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:36 PM
>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
>>
>>
>> People call me Mrs. Evans all the time. I tell them Mrs. Evans is my
>> mother, not me. When people find out I've never been married, most are
>> astounded, even in this day and age. (was engaged twice, it didn't
>> "take")
>>
>> It's amazing, isn't it??
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
>> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:06:45 -0500
>>
>>> Jim,
>>> I guess what I should have said was that understood their use of the term,
>>> but didn't agree with it.
>>>
>>> I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot, lost out on a job to
>>> a woman who had a lot less flying time. They said they had to hire women.
>>> I don't agree with that. I also had a husband who refused to tip waiters;
>>> didn't want to "encourage them to stay in that line of work" because he
>>> wanted to be waited on by a cute girl. (I always left the guy a nice big
>>> tip)
>>>
>>> I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms. A salesperson called and
>>> referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not married and that it was
>>> bad form to assume I was. She said she was instructed to use only Mrs. I
>>> resent this - as if single people don't count. Then I received a Cemetery
>>> service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty Morrissy. All 3
>>> pages of the letter described everything offered as being conditioned on
>>> the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever. I called to tell them
>>> that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I interested in such
>>> services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.
>>>
>>> Why don't single people count?
>>>
>>> Kitty
>>>
>>>
>>>> [Original Message]
>>>> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>> Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse sexism?!
>>>>
>>>> you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of being a sexist, i think the
>>>> women who have carried the torch against sexist behavior by men against
>>>> women have cozened the word as their own with only their definition as
>>>> acceptable.
>>>>
>>>> i think that's why when cooler heads [or both sexes] joined the
>>> discussion,
>>>> reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.
>>>>
>>>> At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>> I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has been bugging me. What do
>>>>> you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is the same abhorant behavior
>>>>> whether it is a preference of male over female or female over male.
>>>>> Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no preference, wouldn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kitty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.
>>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Pam Evans
>> Kemp TX/zone 8A
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