RE: OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.


Kitty - I did the same as you.  

Lynda
Zone 7 - West TN

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf Of Kitty Morrissy
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:45 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.


So another qstn for the ladies:  If you are or were married, how did you
(if you did) change your name?  
I went from Kathleen Marie Glasch to Kathleen Glasch Strope. (At the
time my birth name Kitty had early on been changed to Kathleen and then
later changed back to Kitty) I know many women who would have gone to
Kathleen Marie Strope, retaining less of their former self.

Kitty

> [Original Message]
> From: Barbara Tandy <sundrops@earthlink.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 1/28/2003 11:41:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>
> Spoken like a true 20th-21st century woman!  Friends of my mother's 
> (and
> grandmother's) always went by the title "Mrs. John Smith" -- didn't
even
use
> their own female name!!! just an appendage to their husband--- 
> --Barbara Tandy, California
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 PM
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>
>
> > OK- I have to put in my 2 cents here.  I have never, ever understood

> > the Mrs. thing- why would a woman's title change just because she 
> > got
married.
> > My vote is that everyone is Ms. - married or not.  This reflects 
> > gender (just as Mr. does) not marital status.  I am married, and 
> > still use Ms.
I
> > absolutely hate is when I get mail addressed to Mrs. John Witt.- who

> > the heck is that?  My name is Theresa. I love my husband, but I am 
> > my own person- not some appendage.
> >
> > Theresa
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
> > Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:36 PM
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
> >
> >
> > People call me Mrs. Evans all the time. I tell them Mrs. Evans is my

> > mother, not me. When people find out I've never been married, most 
> > are astounded, even in this day and age. (was engaged twice, it 
> > didn't
> > "take")
> >
> > It's amazing, isn't it??
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
> > Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Date:  Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:06:45 -0500
> >
> > >Jim,
> > >I guess what I should have said was that understood their use of 
> > >the
> term,
> > >but didn't agree with it.
> > >
> > >I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot, lost out on a

> > >job
> to
> > >a woman who had a lot less flying time.  They said they had to hire
> women.
> > >I don't agree with that.  I also had a husband who refused to tip
> waiters;
> > >didn't want to "encourage them to stay in that line of work" 
> > >because he wanted to be waited on by a cute girl.  (I always left 
> > >the guy a nice
big
> > >tip)
> > >
> > >I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms.  A salesperson 
> > >called
and
> > >referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not married and 
> > >that it
> was
> > >bad form to assume I was.  She said she was instructed to use only 
> > >Mrs.
> I
> > >resent this - as if single people don't count.  Then I received a
> Cemetery
> > >service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty Morrissy.  
> > >All 3 pages of the letter described everything offered as being 
> > >conditioned
on
> > >the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever.  I called to tell 
> > >them that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I 
> > >interested in
such
> > >services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.
> > >
> > >Why don't single people count?
> > >
> > >Kitty
> > >
> > >
> > >> [Original Message]
> > >> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
> > >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > >> Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse sexism?!
> > >>
> > >> you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of being a sexist, i 
> > >> think
> the
> > >> women who have carried the torch against sexist behavior by men
against
> > >> women have cozened the word as their own with only their 
> > >> definition
as
> > >> acceptable.
> > >>
> > >> i think that's why when cooler heads [or both sexes] joined the
> > >discussion,
> > >> reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.
> > >>
> > >> At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
> > >> >I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has been bugging me. 
> > >> >What
do
> > >> >you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is the same abhorant
behavior
> > >> >whether it is a preference of male over female or female over 
> > >> >male. Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no preference, 
> > >> >wouldn't
it?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >Kitty
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.
> > >> >
> > >>
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