Re: OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.

Kitty said:

"I know many women who would have gone to Kathleen Marie Strope, retaining
less of their former self."

Must be a very popular name!

DF

>
> Kitty
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Barbara Tandy <sundrops@earthlink.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Date: 1/28/2003 11:41:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
> >
> > Spoken like a true 20th-21st century woman!  Friends of my mother's (and
> > grandmother's) always went by the title "Mrs. John Smith" -- didn't even
> use
> > their own female name!!! just an appendage to their husband---
> > --Barbara Tandy, California
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 PM
> > Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
> >
> >
> > > OK- I have to put in my 2 cents here.  I have never, ever understood the
> > > Mrs. thing- why would a woman's title change just because she got
> married.
> > > My vote is that everyone is Ms. - married or not.  This reflects gender
> > > (just as Mr. does) not marital status.  I am married, and still use Ms.
> I
> > > absolutely hate is when I get mail addressed to Mrs. John Witt.- who the
> > > heck is that?  My name is Theresa.
> > > I love my husband, but I am my own person- not some appendage.
> > >
> > > Theresa
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
> > > Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:36 PM
> > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
> > >
> > >
> > > People call me Mrs. Evans all the time. I tell them Mrs. Evans is my
> > > mother, not me. When people find out I've never been married, most are
> > > astounded, even in this day and age. (was engaged twice, it didn't
> > > "take")
> > >
> > > It's amazing, isn't it??
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
> > > Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > Date:  Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:06:45 -0500
> > >
> > > >Jim,
> > > >I guess what I should have said was that understood their use of the
> > term,
> > > >but didn't agree with it.
> > > >
> > > >I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot, lost out on a job
> > to
> > > >a woman who had a lot less flying time.  They said they had to hire
> > women.
> > > >I don't agree with that.  I also had a husband who refused to tip
> > waiters;
> > > >didn't want to "encourage them to stay in that line of work" because he
> > > >wanted to be waited on by a cute girl.  (I always left the guy a nice
> big
> > > >tip)
> > > >
> > > >I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms.  A salesperson called
> and
> > > >referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not married and that it
> > was
> > > >bad form to assume I was.  She said she was instructed to use only Mrs.
> > I
> > > >resent this - as if single people don't count.  Then I received a
> > Cemetery
> > > >service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty Morrissy.  All 3
> > > >pages of the letter described everything offered as being conditioned
> on
> > > >the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever.  I called to tell them
> > > >that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I interested in
> such
> > > >services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.
> > > >
> > > >Why don't single people count?
> > > >
> > > >Kitty
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> [Original Message]
> > > >> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
> > > >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > >> Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse sexism?!
> > > >>
> > > >> you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of being a sexist, i think
> > the
> > > >> women who have carried the torch against sexist behavior by men
> against
> > > >> women have cozened the word as their own with only their definition
> as
> > > >> acceptable.
> > > >>
> > > >> i think that's why when cooler heads [or both sexes] joined the
> > > >discussion,
> > > >> reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.
> > > >>
> > > >> At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >> >I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has been bugging me. What
> do
> > > >> >you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is the same abhorant
> behavior
> > > >> >whether it is a preference of male over female or female over male.
> > > >> >Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no preference, wouldn't
> it?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Kitty
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
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> > > --
> > > Pam Evans
> > > Kemp TX/zone 8A
> > >
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