Re: OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.

It was 1964.  I dropped my middle name and used my maiden name in its place.
As my children were growing up, I liked sharing the same last name,
particularly after becoming a single parent household.
Janet


on 01/29/2003 7:44 AM, Kitty Morrissy at kmrsy@earthlink.net wrote:

> So another qstn for the ladies:  If you are or were married, how did you
> (if you did) change your name?
> I went from Kathleen Marie Glasch to Kathleen Glasch Strope.
> (At the time my birth name Kitty had early on been changed to Kathleen and
> then later changed back to Kitty)
> I know many women who would have gone to Kathleen Marie Strope, retaining
> less of their former self.
> 
> Kitty
> 
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Barbara Tandy <sundrops@earthlink.net>
>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> Date: 1/28/2003 11:41:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>> 
>> Spoken like a true 20th-21st century woman!  Friends of my mother's (and
>> grandmother's) always went by the title "Mrs. John Smith" -- didn't even
> use
>> their own female name!!! just an appendage to their husband---
>> --Barbara Tandy, California
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 PM
>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>> 
>> 
>>> OK- I have to put in my 2 cents here.  I have never, ever understood the
>>> Mrs. thing- why would a woman's title change just because she got
> married.
>>> My vote is that everyone is Ms. - married or not.  This reflects gender
>>> (just as Mr. does) not marital status.  I am married, and still use Ms.
> I
>>> absolutely hate is when I get mail addressed to Mrs. John Witt.- who the
>>> heck is that?  My name is Theresa.
>>> I love my husband, but I am my own person- not some appendage.
>>> 
>>> Theresa
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>>> Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:36 PM
>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> People call me Mrs. Evans all the time. I tell them Mrs. Evans is my
>>> mother, not me. When people find out I've never been married, most are
>>> astounded, even in this day and age. (was engaged twice, it didn't
>>> "take")
>>> 
>>> It's amazing, isn't it??
>>> 
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>> From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
>>> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>> Date:  Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:06:45 -0500
>>> 
>>>> Jim,
>>>> I guess what I should have said was that understood their use of the
>> term,
>>>> but didn't agree with it.
>>>> 
>>>> I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot, lost out on a job
>> to
>>>> a woman who had a lot less flying time.  They said they had to hire
>> women.
>>>> I don't agree with that.  I also had a husband who refused to tip
>> waiters;
>>>> didn't want to "encourage them to stay in that line of work" because he
>>>> wanted to be waited on by a cute girl.  (I always left the guy a nice
> big
>>>> tip)
>>>> 
>>>> I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms.  A salesperson called
> and
>>>> referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not married and that it
>> was
>>>> bad form to assume I was.  She said she was instructed to use only Mrs.
>> I
>>>> resent this - as if single people don't count.  Then I received a
>> Cemetery
>>>> service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty Morrissy.  All 3
>>>> pages of the letter described everything offered as being conditioned
> on
>>>> the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever.  I called to tell them
>>>> that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I interested in
> such
>>>> services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.
>>>> 
>>>> Why don't single people count?
>>>> 
>>>> Kitty
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> [Original Message]
>>>>> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>>> Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse sexism?!
>>>>> 
>>>>> you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of being a sexist, i think
>> the
>>>>> women who have carried the torch against sexist behavior by men
> against
>>>>> women have cozened the word as their own with only their definition
> as
>>>>> acceptable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> i think that's why when cooler heads [or both sexes] joined the
>>>> discussion,
>>>>> reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.
>>>>> 
>>>>> At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>>> I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has been bugging me. What
> do
>>>>>> you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is the same abhorant
> behavior
>>>>>> whether it is a preference of male over female or female over male.
>>>>>> Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no preference, wouldn't
> it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kitty
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.
>>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> --
>>> Pam Evans
>>> Kemp TX/zone 8A
>>> 
>>> 
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