RE: OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.

You two sound well matched!

> [Original Message]
> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 1/29/2003 4:37:44 AM
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>
> when someone asked my second wife why we had different last names if we 
> were really married, she said it was because we had different fathers.
>
>
>
> At 08:34 PM 1/28/03 -0800, you wrote:
> >OK- I have to put in my 2 cents here.  I have never, ever understood the
> >Mrs. thing- why would a woman's title change just because she got
married.
> >My vote is that everyone is Ms. - married or not.  This reflects gender
> >(just as Mr. does) not marital status.  I am married, and still use Ms. 
I
> >absolutely hate is when I get mail addressed to Mrs. John Witt.- who the
> >heck is that?  My name is Theresa.
> >I love my husband, but I am my own person- not some appendage.
> >
> >Theresa
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
> >Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:36 PM
> >To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
> >
> >
> >People call me Mrs. Evans all the time. I tell them Mrs. Evans is my
> >mother, not me. When people find out I've never been married, most are
> >astounded, even in this day and age. (was engaged twice, it didn't
> >"take")
> >
> >It's amazing, isn't it??
> >
> >---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
> >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >Date:  Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:06:45 -0500
> >
> > >Jim,
> > >I guess what I should have said was that understood their use of the
term,
> > >but didn't agree with it.
> > >
> > >I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot, lost out on a
job to
> > >a woman who had a lot less flying time.  They said they had to hire
women.
> > >I don't agree with that.  I also had a husband who refused to tip
waiters;
> > >didn't want to "encourage them to stay in that line of work" because he
> > >wanted to be waited on by a cute girl.  (I always left the guy a nice
big
> > >tip)
> > >
> > >I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms.  A salesperson called
and
> > >referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not married and that
it was
> > >bad form to assume I was.  She said she was instructed to use only
Mrs.  I
> > >resent this - as if single people don't count.  Then I received a
Cemetery
> > >service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty Morrissy.  All 3
> > >pages of the letter described everything offered as being conditioned
on
> > >the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever.  I called to tell them
> > >that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I interested in
such
> > >services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.
> > >
> > >Why don't single people count?
> > >
> > >Kitty
> > >
> > >
> > >> [Original Message]
> > >> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
> > >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > >> Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse sexism?!
> > >>
> > >> you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of being a sexist, i
think the
> > >> women who have carried the torch against sexist behavior by men
against
> > >> women have cozened the word as their own with only their definition
as
> > >> acceptable.
> > >>
> > >> i think that's why when cooler heads [or both sexes] joined the
> > >discussion,
> > >> reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.
> > >>
> > >> At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
> > >> >I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has been bugging me. What
do
> > >> >you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is the same abhorant
behavior
> > >> >whether it is a preference of male over female or female over male.
> > >> >Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no preference, wouldn't
it?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >Kitty
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.
> > >> >
> > >>
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> >Pam Evans
> >Kemp TX/zone 8A
> >
> >
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