Re: OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.

Nor can I!!

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Andrea H" <hodgesaa@islc.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:18:25 -0500

>Hey-I'm right in there with that one. I will always be Ms. Andrea Hodges. I
>always get amused by our garden club ladies and other socialites here in
>Beaufort who introduce them selves as Mrs. George Trask or whatever. I
>cannot IMAGINE living my life as an appendage.
>
>A close friend of mine who is a doctor went into an art gallery with her
>husband here some years ago. Her husband (who was also a Dr. )introduced
>himself and the owner of the gallery (a woman) said to Andra, "Well aren't
>you just the luckiest thing, you caught yourself a DOCTOR." Andra turned
>around and walked out and never went back. I was amazed at that woman. What
>an idiot!
>
>Andrea H
>Beaufort, SC
>Zone 8b
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Barbara Tandy" <sundrops@earthlink.net>
>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>
>
>> Spoken like a true 20th-21st century woman!  Friends of my mother's (and
>> grandmother's) always went by the title "Mrs. John Smith" -- didn't even
>use
>> their own female name!!! just an appendage to their husband---
>> --Barbara Tandy, California
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 PM
>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>>
>>
>> > OK- I have to put in my 2 cents here.  I have never, ever understood the
>> > Mrs. thing- why would a woman's title change just because she got
>married.
>> > My vote is that everyone is Ms. - married or not.  This reflects gender
>> > (just as Mr. does) not marital status.  I am married, and still use Ms.
>I
>> > absolutely hate is when I get mail addressed to Mrs. John Witt.- who the
>> > heck is that?  My name is Theresa.
>> > I love my husband, but I am my own person- not some appendage.
>> >
>> > Theresa
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>> > Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:36 PM
>> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
>> >
>> >
>> > People call me Mrs. Evans all the time. I tell them Mrs. Evans is my
>> > mother, not me. When people find out I've never been married, most are
>> > astounded, even in this day and age. (was engaged twice, it didn't
>> > "take")
>> >
>> > It's amazing, isn't it??
>> >
>> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> > From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
>> > Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> > Date:  Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:06:45 -0500
>> >
>> > >Jim,
>> > >I guess what I should have said was that understood their use of the
>> term,
>> > >but didn't agree with it.
>> > >
>> > >I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot, lost out on a job
>> to
>> > >a woman who had a lot less flying time.  They said they had to hire
>> women.
>> > >I don't agree with that.  I also had a husband who refused to tip
>> waiters;
>> > >didn't want to "encourage them to stay in that line of work" because he
>> > >wanted to be waited on by a cute girl.  (I always left the guy a nice
>big
>> > >tip)
>> > >
>> > >I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms.  A salesperson called
>and
>> > >referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not married and that it
>> was
>> > >bad form to assume I was.  She said she was instructed to use only Mrs.
>> I
>> > >resent this - as if single people don't count.  Then I received a
>> Cemetery
>> > >service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty Morrissy.  All 3
>> > >pages of the letter described everything offered as being conditioned
>on
>> > >the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever.  I called to tell them
>> > >that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I interested in
>such
>> > >services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.
>> > >
>> > >Why don't single people count?
>> > >
>> > >Kitty
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> [Original Message]
>> > >> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
>> > >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> > >> Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
>> > >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse sexism?!
>> > >>
>> > >> you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of being a sexist, i think
>> the
>> > >> women who have carried the torch against sexist behavior by men
>against
>> > >> women have cozened the word as their own with only their definition
>as
>> > >> acceptable.
>> > >>
>> > >> i think that's why when cooler heads [or both sexes] joined the
>> > >discussion,
>> > >> reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.
>> > >>
>> > >> At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
>> > >> >I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has been bugging me. What
>do
>> > >> >you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is the same abhorant
>behavior
>> > >> >whether it is a preference of male over female or female over male.
>> > >> >Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no preference, wouldn't
>it?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Kitty
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.
>> > >> >
>> > >>
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>> > --
>> > Pam Evans
>> > Kemp TX/zone 8A
>> >
>> >
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Kemp TX/zone 8A


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