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Re: OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.


Oh C'MON now y'all - it's not that bad!  Melody - you've given birth - this is NOTHING compared to that now.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Andrea H" <hodgesaa@islc.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:05:49 -0500

>LOL! Just go get the shot Melody! I promise it won't be too bad. No worse
>than say, having a red hot needle stuck in your eye. Can you tell I ahte
>shots?
>
>Andrea H
>Beaufort, SC
>Zone 8b
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:24 PM
>Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>
>
>> Theresa: In that case, never mind my previous question re:
>> tetanus...unless of course, you happen to know? Listen to me, I'm just
>> looking for an excuse to put off getting that darned tetanus shot! :-)
>>
>>
>> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
>>
>> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
>> --Albert Einstein
>>
>>  --- On Thu 01/30, Theresa- yahoo < tchessie@yahoo.com > wrote:
>> From: Theresa- yahoo [mailto: tchessie@yahoo.com]
>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:52:06 -0800
>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>>
>> A Ph.D. kind of doctor.  Work with children with developmental problems at
>a
>> major medical center.
>>
>> Theresa
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
>> Behalf Of David Franzman
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:51 PM
>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>>
>>
>> You're a doctor???  Man, I'm learning all kinds of things today.  What are
>> you a
>> doctor of?
>>
>> DF
>>
>> Theresa- yahoo wrote:
>>
>> > Amazingly, I still have an occassional parent be very surprised when
>I
>> > introduce myself at work (Dr. Witt)- usually it is a man who is
>surprised.
>> > One or two have even said outloud that they expected a man- one asked
>for
>> a
>> > "man doctor".  This is are more annoying than those people
>who are
>> surprised
>> > I am a Dr. because I look so young.  That I can live with : ) - and
>will
>> > likely enjoy more and more as years go by.
>> >
>> > Theresa
>> >
>> > P.S. For the record- our clinic nurse is a man.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
>> > Behalf Of Andrea H
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:18 PM
>> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>> >
>> > Hey-I'm right in there with that one. I will always be Ms. Andrea
>Hodges.
>> I
>> > always get amused by our garden club ladies and other socialites here
>in
>> > Beaufort who introduce them selves as Mrs. George Trask or whatever.
>I
>> > cannot IMAGINE living my life as an appendage.
>> >
>> > A close friend of mine who is a doctor went into an art gallery with
>her
>> > husband here some years ago. Her husband (who was also a
>Dr. )introduced
>> > himself and the owner of the gallery (a woman) said to Andra,
>"Well aren't
>> > you just the luckiest thing, you caught yourself a DOCTOR."
>Andra turned
>> > around and walked out and never went back. I was amazed at that
>woman.
>> What
>> > an idiot!
>> >
>> > Andrea H
>> > Beaufort, SC
>> > Zone 8b
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Barbara Tandy" <sundrops@earthlink.net>
>> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:41 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>> >
>> > > Spoken like a true 20th-21st century woman!  Friends of my
>mother's (and
>> > > grandmother's) always went by the title "Mrs. John
>Smith" -- didn't even
>> > use
>> > > their own female name!!! just an appendage to their husband---
>> > > --Barbara Tandy, California
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
>> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 PM
>> > > Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > OK- I have to put in my 2 cents here.  I have never, ever
>understood
>> the
>> > > > Mrs. thing- why would a woman's title change just because
>she got
>> > married.
>> > > > My vote is that everyone is Ms. - married or not.  This
>reflects
>> gender
>> > > > (just as Mr. does) not marital status.  I am married, and
>still use
>> Ms.
>> > I
>> > > > absolutely hate is when I get mail addressed to Mrs. John
>Witt.- who
>> the
>> > > > heck is that?  My name is Theresa.
>> > > > I love my husband, but I am my own person- not some
>appendage.
>> > > >
>> > > > Theresa
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
>[mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
>> > > > Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:36 PM
>> > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > People call me Mrs. Evans all the time. I tell them Mrs.
>Evans is my
>> > > > mother, not me. When people find out I've never been
>married, most are
>> > > > astounded, even in this day and age. (was engaged twice, it
>didn't
>> > > > "take")
>> > > >
>> > > > It's amazing, isn't it??
>> > > >
>> > > > ---------- Original
>Message ----------------------------------
>> > > > From: "Kitty Morrissy"
><kmrsy@earthlink.net>
>> > > > Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> > > > Date:  Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:06:45 -0500
>> > > >
>> > > > >Jim,
>> > > > >I guess what I should have said was that understood
>their use of the
>> > > term,
>> > > > >but didn't agree with it.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot,
>lost out on a
>> job
>> > > to
>> > > > >a woman who had a lot less flying time.  They said they
>had to hire
>> > > women.
>> > > > >I don't agree with that.  I also had a husband who
>refused to tip
>> > > waiters;
>> > > > >didn't want to "encourage them to stay in that
>line of work" because
>> he
>> > > > >wanted to be waited on by a cute girl.  (I always left
>the guy a nice
>> > big
>> > > > >tip)
>> > > > >
>> > > > >I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms.  A
>salesperson called
>> > and
>> > > > >referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not
>married and that
>> it
>> > > was
>> > > > >bad form to assume I was.  She said she was instructed
>to use only
>> Mrs.
>> > > I
>> > > > >resent this - as if single people don't count.  Then I
>received a
>> > > Cemetery
>> > > > >service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty
>Morrissy.  All
>> 3
>> > > > >pages of the letter described everything offered as
>being conditioned
>> > on
>> > > > >the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever.  I
>called to tell
>> them
>> > > > >that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I
>interested in
>> > such
>> > > > >services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Why don't single people count?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Kitty
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> [Original Message]
>> > > > >> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
>> > > > >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> > > > >> Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
>> > > > >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse
>sexism?!
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of
>being a sexist, i
>> think
>> > > the
>> > > > >> women who have carried the torch against sexist
>behavior by men
>> > against
>> > > > >> women have cozened the word as their own with only
>their definition
>> > as
>> > > > >> acceptable.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> i think that's why when cooler heads [or both
>sexes] joined the
>> > > > >discussion,
>> > > > >> reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
>> > > > >> >I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has
>been bugging me.
>> What
>> > do
>> > > > >> >you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is
>the same abhorant
>> > behavior
>> > > > >> >whether it is a preference of male over female
>or female over
>> male.
>> > > > >> >Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no
>preference, wouldn't
>> > it?
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >Kitty
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >If you have weeds, you don't have enough
>plants.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> >
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>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Pam Evans
>> > > > Kemp TX/zone 8A
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
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Kemp TX/zone 8A


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