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Re: Dogs (was Hello out there)

  • Subject: Re: Dogs (was Hello out there)
  • From: james singer <inlandjim1@q.com>
  • Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:59:16 -0800

If I was going to shoot--remembering "Pulp Fiction"--it wouldn't be at the knee caps.

On Jan 27, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Jesse Bell wrote:

If that worked Kitty - it would be AWESOME. My youngest son (the Marine) wants to wear his camouflage sniper suit and sit out there at night and wait on him. He mentioned a dye that does the same thing...if he grabbed a handle or doorknob it would show up on his hands for days. I don't want to get really EXTREME..I just want him to go away. I am a very non- violent person. What worries me is the fact that I have young daughters (age 20 - all three of them) who are here during the day and I'm NOT. You just never know when somebody will go a step further and do something heinous. When my husband travels, the two big dogs are sleeping on the floor by my bed and I
have a hand gun in my nightstand (and I know how to use it).  I don't
believe in taking somebody's life, but if they are in my house, they are up to no good and I will shoot to protect my children. I told the Sheriff's department that. And I also told the Sheriff that if I ruin my walls or
furniture shooting at this jerk I will be even MORE angry (LOL)

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:

remember the water hose motion detectors?  Hmm, maybe you could get
something like that and attach a hose end sprayer full of ink - like the ink canisters they use to identify stolen currency. That would identify him. If
it holds up in court for bank robbers, it should work on him too!

neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnson, Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95
CS/SCOSI" <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] Dogs (was Hello out there)

Oh my god. Words fail me.
Well...there's outdoor motion detectors so you could be alerted when
someone's close...and the alert could sound inside so the intruder
wouldn't hear it but you'd have a chance to catch them by surprise.
But hopefully your mastiff will be just the thing. As long as the jerk doesn't start cutting your fences or something where the dog can't get
to him.
Can your mastiff be a livestock guard dog as well? Some mastiff types
are LGDs I think. The LGD breeds can be pretty aggressive to human
intruders while protecting their herds, but I don't think they make very
good pets.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
Behalf Of Jesse Bell
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:54 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Dogs (was Hello out there)

I live in the country and have "no trespassing" signs all over the fence line. My husband put up security cameras, security lights (this guys
the cameras are there and he wears a hoodie jacket and covers his
have that on film, but no face so it doesn't do us any good) and we also hired a retired swat/policeman to sit out here one night. The peeping
usually shows up on a full moon because it's so bright.  But he also
from a distance - and I think he knew the cop was out there waiting on
because he didn't show up that night. That police officer said he would
happy to loan us 2-3 police dogs but we declined because I didn't want
altercation with MY dogs. We flat out told the Sheriff's office that if
see him again, we're gonna shoot 'em in the *ss and feel sorry about it later. My husband went to high school with the sheriff and the district attorney - both of them said "Robert - if it were ME, I would feel the
way - and we may have to go through the "formalities" of arresting you
you did it..but I doubt anything would happen. Or, we might just have
look the other way or say it was self-defense, so don't shoot him in the
*ss, shoot him in the knee cap!"As far as getting sued for the dog
biting or
attacking - I doubt that would happen.  We have multiple complaints
with the sheriff's office and a description of the perp - and they KNOW
he is but have to catch him in the act. He has a record for indecent exposure and disorderly conduct. AND I have worked in the legal field
years and have some really good attorneys that would represent us if
were to happen. I think everybody around here would like to beat the
guy to
a pulp.  He targets houses with young girls (I have four girls) and
of all things (I'm blonde, two of my daughters are blonde). This guy
leaves a "sign" that he was here - just so you know.  He leaves a
butt on our porch, unscrews the outdoor light bulbs, opens a pasture
gate -
and he is very savvy.  He is an ex-military guy and knows how to get
this area. He travels down the creek so he isn't caught. I have, on
mornings, seen his footprints outside my bedroom window and my girls

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Johnson, Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95
<cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil> wrote:

That's awful. But be careful. I don't know what your local laws are,


here if my dog bit someone - even if they were trespassing on my
property - I could get sued and the dog put down as vicious. Not


they'd win but it could happen. Still, a nice huge dog barking its


off should give anyone second thoughts!
Can you do anything with security cameras? Lots of web cameras out


these days.
Sort of related - in the city next door they are passing a law that
every pit bull and Rottweiler must be neutered. They are trying to


down on the gangs. Pit bulls are a real problem here, there is not a week goes by that there is not an incident, but I have my doubts that
this law will be effective.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner- gardenchat@hort.net] On
Behalf Of Pam Evans
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:38 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello out there

He's still out there?   I figured that time Robert shot at him he'd


away.  What a jerk.  I hope she chews him up!

On 1/26/09, Jesse Bell <justjess01@gmail.com> wrote:

We took her in from a lady who had to move and could not take a dog
size with her.  It's an English Mastiff.  I saw her mother and
father....they were HUGE gentle giants, but can be very protective


people, which is why we wanted her.  We have a peeping tom that


periodically - I'd like to just go out and pick up his bones and be
with him.  I'm sick of calling the sheriff's office and nothing
happens.  We
pretty much know who the guy is, and where he lives, we just can't
it's him.  We've seen him face to face outside at night...and my
shot a gun over his head one night.  This *ss has unlocked the


gates on our animals and we find them wandering around in the


live right off a major highway...they could get out and be hit by
traffic. The lady who owned this house before us had two horses get
out on
the highway - one was hit and killed instantly and the other was
injured so
bad they had to shoot it, right there on the road.  I would put


that it was the peeper who did that to her.  So now - because of


we have to padlock every stall and barn out there. Other neighbors
complained about him too.  He's been at this for over 15 years.I


new dog takes a bite out of his butt.  Explain that to the E.R.

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Elevation 148'
39.9" Precipitation
Hardiness Zone 8/9
Heat Zone 5
Sunset Zone 6
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Maximum 102 F [39 C]

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