Re: Four O'Clocks, wedding..

She's rather out there for sure. But she has already made her choice and
you have made yours to live in a better way. And a great deal more
wisely if I may say my dear!!


Pam Evans
Kemp, TX
zone 8A
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrea H
Sent: 7/9/2004 3:24:47 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] Re: Four O'Clocks, wedding..

> She IS "coo-coo-ka-choo!" I know it's from the way she was raised but my
> Lord, I am trying so hard not to be like that.
> A
> 
> Andrea H
> Beaufort, SC
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 11:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] Re: Four O'Clocks, wedding..
> 
> 
> > Oh I was hoping you'd tell the "stalking story"! I crack up just
> > thinking about it. And I love it when you refer to your mom as
> > "coo-coo-ka-choo". That makes me fall out of my chair every time.
> > Amazing. Almost makes my family look normal except for one uncle and
> > first cousin.
> >
> >
> > Pam Evans
> > Kemp, TX
> > zone 8A
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Andrea H
> > Sent: 7/8/2004 8:55:03 PM
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Four O'Clocks, wedding..
> >
> > > Oh, my best wedding story is from last September when my Dad remarried
> after
> > > 10 years of being alone. My mother went completely borderline, got mad
> at ME
> > > because I didn't come and see her (this is my fathers wedding mind you)
> and
> > > because I was staying at a hotel down the street from her felt the need
> to
> > > ride her bicycle to the hotel, trail my date through the parking lot as
> he
> > > drove my car to the front to pick me up and skulk under a palm tree
> until I
> > > came out. Now my mother is quite the beach bum, long blond hair in
> partial
> > > braids, no bra, sandals, wouldn't take her shades off. My date, who I
> think
> > > was terrified that we were going to get into a fist fight in the parking
> lot
> > > actually retreated, the chicken, We didn't, of course get into a fight,
> but
> > > she managed to embarrass me to death. And she's still mad at me about
> that.
> > >
> > > Everytime I think of her riding her bike after my car the wicked witch
> of
> > > the west theme plays in my head.
> > >
> > > Andrea H
> > > Beaufort, SC
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Jesse Bell" <silverhawk@flash.net>
> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 3:44 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Four O'Clocks, wedding..
> > >
> > >
> > > > OHMYGOSH Kitty...that's horrible. Geeeeez Louise. So....your family
> and
> > > > my family sound related?! Are we cousins? Feel free to jump in there
> > > > Andrea...(Andrea and I trade stories about our family all the
> > > > time...LOL).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jesse
> > > >
> > > > Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > Re > > Well, the dysfunctional part would be:...
> > > > Jesse, I was being facetious when I asked. However, your fleshing out
> the
> > > > material was pretty interesting, so, if I were to say I still didn't
> get
> > > it,
> > > > maybe you'd tell us more? ;+)
> > > >
> > > > To balance this I can add that my older sister decided to kill herself
> on
> > > my
> > > > wedding day (didn't succeed) apparently because I asked her to make a
> > > > turkey. The turkey was the simplest thing I could come up with for her
> as
> > > > she kept asking for something to contribute. Then for my second
> wedding I
> > > > came darned close to trying to kill myself, so yes, I can relate.
> > > >
> > > > Kitty
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Jesse Bell"
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:33 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Four O'Clocks, wedding..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Oh yes...I did the shower and helped plan the food and coordinate.
> They
> > > > > got married on the 2nd of July but did not leave for the
> > > > > cruise/honeymoon till Monday so on Sunday we had the new in-law
> family
> > > > > and our family (parents, brothers, sister, aunts, etc) at our house
> for
> > > > > a cookout, drinks and fireworks. The groom's, mother, father and
> > > > > stepmother were there. That was funny to watch too.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, the dysfunctional part would be: the second ex wife who is no
> > > > > relation to the bride or groom, and when my stepdaughter lived with
> her,
> > > > > they HATED each other, and yet she was escorted down the aisle like
> she
> > > > > was FAMILY for Pete's sake. NOBODY wanted her there but my
> stepdaughter
> > > > > didn't want to "hurt her feelings" so when she invited herself to
> the
> > > > > wedding...Nic said "well....O.K.". This is the woman who spread
> horrible
> > > > > rumors about my husband and his family that were not true....yet
> oddly
> > > > > enough...continues to impose at our family functions.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > AND...the people in my family and my husband''s ex who can't seem to
> > > > > function in this world unless they have taken some sort of drug or
> have
> > > > > a glass of alcohol in their hands...or worse..they've MIXED
> them...and
> > > > > become so obnoxious you can't stand to be around them. Remember the
> old
> > > > > toys you got in the gum machine...the black and white scottie dogs
> that
> > > > > were magnets? and if you pushed one towards the other it would scoot
> > > > > away? Well, that would be my sister or my husband's ex...they would
> come
> > > > > into a room and you could see people start to scoot out of
> there....they
> > > > > would continue with this scenario until somebody had to say "I think
> > > > > you've had enough...go home and sleep it off". My sister left. The
> > > > > ex...well she made a scene and was there until the last person was
> gone.
> > > > > She was out back drinking shots of Yagermeister (I KNOW I didn't
> spell
> > > > > that right). That stuff is like Tequila...it'll will kill ya after a
> few
> > > > > shots. UGHHH.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kitty wrote:
> > > > > So what was the dysfunctional part?
> > > > >
> > > > > Since this was your stepdaughter, did you have any part in the
> planning
> > > of
> > > > > the event?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kitty
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: "Jesse Bell"
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:10 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Four O'Clocks, wedding..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well, in my zone the four o'clocks get bigger and bigger "tubers"
> as
> > > > > > they mature. I have some that are as big as a sweet potato....and
> they
> > > > > > get BIG, but are slower to bloom.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for the wedding....you have to know that (A) I come from a very
> > > > > > dysfunctional family, (B) my husband's two ex's are dysfunctional
> and
> > > > > > way "out there", (c) my stepdaughter and her new husband are from
> > > "that
> > > > > > generation" as my husband puts it...so half of the wedding guests
> were
> > > > > > rather conservative...and "that generation" made up the other
> > > > > > half...(facial piercing, tattoos all over, dressed rather
> oddly...and
> > > > > > when you walked out back of the reception hall...the smell of pot
> was
> > > > > > THICK let me tell ya). I had to make my sister go home because she
> had
> > > > > > too much to drink (act surprised) and was hitting on my
> brother-in-law
> > > > > > (who is very married). The mother of the bride (husband's first
> ex)
> > > had
> > > >
> > > > > > not eaten all day, took a Valium before the wedding and proceeded
> to
> > > get
> > > > > > totally trashed at the reception (not a pretty sight) and the
> second
> > > ex,
> > > > > > who really had no business being there but she invited herself,
> was
> > > > > > hovering around trying to mingle and most of them wanted nothing
> to do
> > > > > > with her.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BUT...the ceremony itself was nice. (deep breath) So...that's one
> > > child
> > > > > down and five more to go. I hope the others wait awhile.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kitty wrote:
> > > > > > Well, I have seen some JB holes on a few of the leaves, but I
> don't
> > > see
> > > > > any
> > > > > > carcasses. They are only just now beginning to bloom, so maybe
> their
> > > > lure
> > > > > > will be stronger as the season progresses.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Re> That was a LOT of work, let me tell ya
> > > > > > Yes, please do!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kitty
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > > From: "Jesse Bell"
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 10:30 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [CHAT] Re: self-sowers/still catching up..
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Still trying to catch up on e-mails. I didn't read them for 4-5
> days
> > > > > > > because of my daughter's wedding. That was a LOT of work, let me
> > > tell
> > > > > > > ya. Anyway...yes Kitty...I sent you some Four O'Clock
> > > seeds..thinking
> > > > it
> > > > > > > would help with the Japanese Beetle problem you were having. Did
> it
> > > > help
> > > > > > > at all? Or is that an old wive's tale?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kitty wrote:
> > > > > > > You know, I think it was Jesse. Thanks!
> > > > > > > Kitty
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:02 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] self-sowers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Probably Jesse or moi Kitty - we both have them all over the
> > > place!
> > > > > Love
> > > > > > > > 'em though! Anyone who needs seeds holler - I have tons of
> them.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pam Evans
> > > > > > > > Kemp, TX
> > > > > > > > zone 8A
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: Kitty
> > > > > > > > Sent: 7/4/2004 12:46:29 PM
> > > > > > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] self-sowers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well, maybe it was Pam, I know she grows 4 O'Clocks.
> Whomever -
> > > > > > thanks!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > too bad about the sting, I hate losing a day. Take care of
> > > > yourself.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Kitty
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 12:07 PM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] self-sowers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/4/2004 11:41:05 AM Central Standard
> Time,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > kmrsy@comcast.net writes:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Balsam, yeah, I need to grow that next year.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I did not send you the Mirabilis jalapa seeds, but I
> surely do
> > > > > have
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Balsam. If you want seeds remind me later in the summer,
> and I
> > > > can
> > > > > > > send
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > some. There's a weather alert on TV right now. We are
> > > expecting
> > > > > > > strong
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > straight line winds and sever thunder storms this
> afternoon,
> > > but
> > > > I
> > > > > > > think,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > with all
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > the benadryl I took earlier, I'll never notice.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > zem
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > zone 7
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > West TN
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
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