Re: Pams lighening

Economics is the problem here too.  Poor county.  And if they won't
spend money on schools and roads, they darn sure don't get a hollerin'
hoot about utility lines.

On 7/14/05, Zemuly Sanders <zsanders@midsouth.rr.com> wrote:
> The ground water's proximity might be a factor in Florida, but I know that
> economics is the problem here.  The subject gets raised every time we have a
> bunch of tornadoes or an ice storm.  Tennessee would rather build highways
> than anything else.  Ours are highly rated, but seems there was a recent
> scandal about them.
> zem
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Franzman" <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Pams lighening
> 
> 
> > Hey Zem
> >
> > I understand the expense of sinking all of the older lines though you
> > would think that would be cheaper in the long run than restringing them
> > all everytime you have some tropical storm.  However, I was driving around
> > Orlando which is a fairly new city so to speak and they are still above
> > ground.  I thought maybe that there is a problem with the proximity of the
> > ground water or something that prevents it.
> >
> > Speaking of economics and infrastructure you folks in the south should
> > know that at least your highways are much better than California's.  Our
> > system designed and built in the 60's is really showing it's age while
> > your systems seem much newer and better kept.
> >
> > David
> > http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Zemuly Sanders" <zsanders@midsouth.rr.com>
> > To: "gardenchat" <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Pams lighening
> >
> >
> >> It would be too expensive to go back and put all those lines underground.
> >> There are some newly developed areas that do have underground utilities,
> >> but
> >> not many.
> >> zem
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "David Franzman" <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 6:17 PM
> >> Subject: [CHAT] Pams lighening
> >>
> >>
> >>> Pam I'm sorry to hear of your friends loss.  It does lead me to a
> >>> question
> >>> though.  Did they have that wonderful invention by Benjamin Franklin
> >>> called a lightening rod?  The reason I asked is because I visited one of
> >>> my suppliers in Gainesville Fl. which is reputed to be the lightening
> >>> capital of the world.  He didn't have a lightening rod.  I don't get it!
> >>>
> >>> Along the same lines (pardon the pun) I notice that all of the
> >>> electrical
> >>> lines are above ground.  I would think that with tropical storms and
> >>> hurricanes one would want to have underground lines like we have here in
> >>> many parts of Ca.  How come they don't in Fl. Miss, La and presumably
> >>> other southern gulf states?
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>> http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "A A HODGES" <hodgesaa@earthlink.net>
> >>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 3:30 PM
> >>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] T.S. DENNIS visits TN
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> OMG! That's horrible Pam! Please let them know they're in my thoughts.
> >>>> A
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrea H
> >>>> Beaufort, SC
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> [Original Message]
> >>>>> From: Donna <gossiper@sbcglobal.net>
> >>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>> Date: 7/13/2005 11:41:08 PM
> >>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] T.S. DENNIS visits TN
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Oh Pam... I am so sorry to hear this! I hope the insurance takes care
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> everything and THANK GOD, they were not in there....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anything I can do from here?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Donna
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Well Daryl - you don't have to be in a hurricane's path for disaster
> >>>>> > to strike.  A little pocket storm popped up in Kaufman late this
> >>>>> > afternoon.
> >>>>> > Lightning hit my friends Elaine & Mike's business.  Burned to the
> >>>>> > ground - total loss.  Plus their motor home, boat, tractor & her
> >>>>> > late
> >>>>> > mother's car that were all in the warehouse.  Thank God she was
> >>>>> > across
> >>>>> > the street at A-Box & he had just gone to Home Depot.  Firemen told
> >>>>> > us
> >>>>> > anyone who had been in the building (metal) would have been
> >>>>> > electrocuted or incinerated.   What a bloody awful mess.  I'm still
> >>>>> > in
> >>>>> > shock.
> >>>>> > And it didn't even rain here (10 miles away) can you believe it?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On 7/12/05, Pam Evans <gardenqueen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> > > Daryl darlin' - you can sure tell a story!  And been saying
> >>>>> > > prayers
> >>>>> > > for all in Cindy's, Dennis' and now Emily's path.   I have some
> >>>>> > > pretty
> >>>>> > > ugly flashbacks from Agnes in '72, so I understand.
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > On 7/12/05, Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center
> >>>>> > > <4042N15@nationalhearing.com> wrote:
> >>>>> > > > nothing but clouds so far.
> >>>>> > > > Kitty
> >>>>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> > > > From: "Daryl" <pulis@mindspring.com>
> >>>>> > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:28 PM
> >>>>> > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] T.S. DENNIS visits TN
> >>>>> > > >
> >>>>> > > >
> >>>>> > > > > Yep. I sure didn't reckon on all of the noise.
> >>>>> > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > Hope you're getting some of this downpour. Sheesh! Enough
> >>>>> > > > > already!
> >>>>> > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > d
> >>>>> > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> > > > > From: "Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center"
> >>>>> > > > > <4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> >>>>> > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:07 PM
> >>>>> > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] T.S. DENNIS visits TN
> >>>>> > > > >
> >>>>> > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > Oh, what a mess, Daryl.  I remember when my house flooded
> >>>>> > > > > > from
> >>>>> > > > > > a
> >>>>> > loose
> >>>>> > > > > pipe,
> >>>>> > > > > > the cleanup crew brought in huge turbo fans and
> >>>>> > > > > > dehumidifiers.
> >>>>> > All the
> >>>>> > > > > > windows had to be kept shut so the dehumidifiers wouldn't
> >>>>> > > > > > also
> >>>>> > draw
> >>>>> > > > > outside
> >>>>> > > > > > moisture.  The heat that built up was not so terribly bad
> >>>> because
> >>>>> > the
> >>>>> > > > > turbo
> >>>>> > > > > > fans kept the air moving, but they were so loud you couldn't
> >>>> hear
> >>>>> > > > yourself
> >>>>> > > > > > think.  I slept outside in the Florida room that whole week.
> >>>> I'm
> >>>>> > not
> >>>>> > > > > trying
> >>>>> > > > > > to compare my situation to what you're going through, just
> >>>> trying
> >>>>> > to
> >>>>> > > > > relate.
> >>>>> > > > > > I had it easy compared to your problem.  Good luck.
> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > Kitty
> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> > > > > > From: "Daryl" <pulis@mindspring.com>
> >>>>> > > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:37 PM
> >>>>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] T.S. DENNIS visits TN
> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > > Pam,
> >>>>> > > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > > Is that a corollary to these two? To a New Yorker,
> >>>>> > > > > > > anything
> >>>> that
> >>>>> > isn't
> >>>>> > > > > New
> >>>>> > > > > > > York is West. And to a Midwesterner, anything east of
> >>>>> > > > > > > Indiana
> >>>> is
> >>>>> > New
> >>>>> > > > > York?
> >>>>> > > > > > > ;-)
> >>>>> > > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > > The sun came out for a little bit today. Mostly it seems
> >>>>> > > > > > > to
> >>>> have
> >>>>> > built
> >>>>> > > > > up
> >>>>> > > > > > > storms. Fortunately so far they've stayed just west of us
> >>>>> > > > > > > but
> >>>>> > they're
> >>>>> > > > > > > closing in.
> >>>>> > > > > > > The good news is that I won't have to water for a while.
> >>>>> > > > > > > The
> >>>> bad
> >>>>> > news
> >>>>> > > > is
> >>>>> > > > > > > that the septic drainfield flooded. We've been here 24
> >>>>> > > > > > > years
> >>>> and
> >>>>> > > > that's
> >>>>> > > > > > > rarely happened until this year. The good news is that I'm
> >>>> aware
> >>>>> > of
> >>>>> > > > it.
> >>>>> > > > > > The
> >>>>> > > > > > > bad news is that I have a bunch of clothes that I can't
> >>>>> > > > > > > get
> >>>>> > washed,
> >>>>> > > > and
> >>>>> > > > > I
> >>>>> > > > > > > need to, since I'm headed to Wisconsin on Thursday.
> >>>>> > > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > > The good news is that the dehumidifier we bought yesterday
> >>>>> > > > > > > is
> >>>>> > drying
> >>>>> > > > out
> >>>>> > > > > > the
> >>>>> > > > > > > rugs and the walls and ceiling. The bad news is that it
> >>>>> > > > > > > raises
> >>>>> > the
> >>>>> > > > > > > temperature. The good news is that the ceiling didn't cave
> >>>>> > > > > > > in.
> >>>>> > The bad
> >>>>> > > > > > news
> >>>>> > > > > > > is that the ceiling has some ugly black marks that are
> >>>>> > > > > > > maybe
> >>>> 3'
> >>>>> > long
> >>>>> > > > and
> >>>>> > > > > a
> >>>>> > > > > > > foot wide in spots.
> >>>>> > > > > > > The good news is that the furnace and the AC fan in the
> >>>>> > crawlspace
> >>>>> > > > > didn't
> >>>>> > > > > > > flood. The bad news is that the crawlspace took on a good
> >>>>> > > > > > > bit
> >>>> of
> >>>>> > > > water,
> >>>>> > > > > > and
> >>>>> > > > > > > is so humid, the AC isn't helping reduce the humidity in
> >>>>> > > > > > > here
> >>>>> > very
> >>>>> > > > much.
> >>>>> > > > > > > The good news is that I only permanently lost a Tithonia
> >>>>> > > > > > > and
> >>>>> > some tree
> >>>>> > > > > > > branches - not counting any drowned plants that just
> >>>>> > > > > > > haven't
> >>>>> > shown it
> >>>>> > > > > yet.
> >>>>> > > > > > > The bad news is that there's a lot of flopped over
> >>>>> > stuff/diseased
> >>>>> > > > stuff.
> >>>>> > > > > > But
> >>>>> > > > > > > it could be so much worse. We're thankful.
> >>>>> > > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > > We still haven't heard from our friends in Pensacola - the
> >>>> ones
> >>>>> > that
> >>>>> > > > > lost
> >>>>> > > > > > > pretty much everything (including the kitchen sink and
> >>>>> > countertops) to
> >>>>> > > > > > Ivan
> >>>>> > > > > > > last year. Still keeping fingers crossed. If you know some
> >>>>> > prayers,
> >>>>> > > > > Becca
> >>>>> > > > > > > could surely use them. Poor Becca was just starting to
> >>>>> > repopulate a
> >>>>> > > > few
> >>>>> > > > > of
> >>>>> > > > > > > her beloved garden beds with cuttings and plants sent from
> >>>>> > friends.
> >>>>> > > > Not
> >>>>> > > > > > only
> >>>>> > > > > > > did she lose plants, but soil, and had to pick out
> >>>>> > > > > > > thousands
> >>>> of
> >>>>> > pieces
> >>>>> > > > > of
> >>>>> > > > > > > glass, wallboard, videotapes. old clothes, and all manner
> >>>>> > > > > > > of
> >>>>> > other
> >>>>> > > > > things
> >>>>> > > > > > > before she could plant anything at all.
> >>>>> > > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > > Kitty, I'll be happy to send rain. After several weeks of
> >>>>> > > > > > > dry,
> >>>>> > we'd
> >>>>> > > > just
> >>>>> > > > > > > gotten a new well pump put in (to the tune of over $800)
> >>>>> > > > > > > the
> >>>> day
> >>>>> > > > before
> >>>>> > > > > it
> >>>>> > > > > > > started raining. Who knew?
> >>>>> > > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > > d
> >>>>> > > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> > > > > > > From: "Pam Evans" <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
> >>>>> > > > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:46 PM
> >>>>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] T.S. DENNIS visits TN
> >>>>> > > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > > > Sorry darlin' - anything East of the Big Muddy is East
> >>>>> > > > > > > > to
> >>>>> > > > > > > > a
> >>>>> > Texan!!
> >>>>> > > > > > LOL
> >>>>> > > > > > > > Things better today?
> >>>>> > > > >
> >>>>> > > > >
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> >>>>> > > --
> >>>>> > > Pam Evans
> >>>>> > > Kemp TX
> >>>>> > > zone 8A
> >>>>> > >
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> >>>>> > Pam Evans
> >>>>> > Kemp TX
> >>>>> > zone 8A
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Pam Evans
Kemp TX
zone 8A

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