Re: OUCH!


I research as well. I even researched epsom salts and coffee grounds! LOL!

Sue
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] OUCH!


> > people.  It's not like any of them actually say "poison" on them
>
> Oh?
> All my bottles say "Caution" (except one that just says Warning) and
advise
> reading precautionary statements.  Hmmm, here's one that advises
contacting
> POISON Control Center.  Oh, and another: Highly Toxic.
>
> I'll give you this much, though.  The one systemic I have (haven't used in
> ages and should throw out) says it is for use on ornamentals.  It does not
> say not to use on food crops.  I think it should.  However, a big gripe I
> have about all these chemicals is that they only tell you what they
> absolutely must, not necessarily what you need to know.  And anything on
the
> negative side is put in 4 point print.
>
> I seem to remember that when I took my pesticides class years ago and also
> when we studied pesticides in MG training that you were supposed to be
able
> to find icons on pesticide containers that illustrated the level of
> toxicity.  The worst was the skull and crossbones.  However, I don't see
> these on any of my current containers.
>
> In the end, I stick to my guns about researching (3 minutes on google) any
> product for any use when you know nothing about it.
>
> Kitty
> neIN, Zone 5
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Theresa W." <tchessie1@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OUCH!
>
>
> > Oh- I don't know.  The labels on most of these chemicals and the
> > commercials on TV are presented is such a way to fool less savvy people.
> > It's not like any of them actually say "poison" on them after all.  They
> > are all colorful and going to help you have the "best" lawn or garden
> > ever.  I think most people assume they are OK, just like most people use
> > household chemicals without giving it a second thought.  It's just how
> > most of us were raised quite frankly.  Those of us who are organic (both
> > in the garden and/or in the house) are the exception, not the rule.
> >
> > Theresa
> >
> > Kitty wrote:
> >> When I was a new gardener, I read more of the label than I do now.  If
> >> you're new at anything, you need to educate yourself.  Even seasoned
> >> gardeners make mistakes.  But the person who made this mistake will
make
> >> the same mistake in all areas of life.  He's the guy that doesn't read
> >> the schematic until he's done and finds 6 extra pieces leftover.  He's
> >> the guy that won't aks for directions.  He's the guy that knows that
"An
> >> Inconvenient Truth" is a load of crap without seeing it.  He's the guy
> >> who says "Balloon?" when it comes time to pay that big chunk on the
great
> >> mortgage deal he got.  He's the guy who already knows it all.
> >>
> >> Kitty
> >> neIN, Zone 5
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna" <gossiper@sbcglobal.net>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 9:29 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OUCH!
> >>
> >>
> >>> My question would be- is this a new or seasoned
> >>> gardener.
> >>>
> >>> I made tons of mistakes in the beginning, heck I still
> >>> do...
> >>>
> >>> Donna
> >>>
> >>> --- Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Some people are just idiots.  The word "systemic"
> >>>> couldn't have just been in
> >>>> the fine print, it had to be right there in the name
> >>>> or as a subtitle sort
> >>>> of thing.  And aphids - FCOL! - something simple
> >>>> enough to deal with.
> >>>> Sorry, but I think he got what he deserved.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kitty
> >>>> neIN, Zone 5
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "SueNY" <sue.nyc@att.net>
> >>>> To: <GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU>
> >>>> Cc: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 6:53 PM
> >>>> Subject: [CHAT] OUCH!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >  I just read a post on another gardening board.
> >>>> The person had a problem
> >>>> > with aphids in their garden and went to Home Depot
> >>>> and bought some spray
> >>>> > and
> >>>> > doused the garden. The problem? The spray was
> >>>> Ortho Systemic Insect
> >>>> > Killer!
> >>>> > He didn't bother to read the label until AFTER
> >>>> he'd sprayed. Now he wants
> >>>> > to
> >>>> > know how to save his veggies. When it was
> >>>> explained to him that he'd just
> >>>> > made all his veggies poisonous, he had a fit..
> >>>> Poor guy!
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Sue(6B)
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
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