RE: Help with plant ID

Well, that's just sad.  Sorry it wasn't more inclusive, Cathy.  You'd think
the American Clematis Society would carry the full line, as it were.

Blessings,
Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5) 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of Cathy Carpenter
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 10:02 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Help with plant ID

Nice site, but when I challenged it to find C. fremontii and C.  
crispa, two of our native "bush" clematis, it couldn't. Guess they are only
into the showy ones!

Cathy, west central IL, z5b

On Jul 22, 2006, at 8:26 AM, Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:

> Kitty, I did find a link for the American Clematis Society, if that 
> will help you:
>
> http://clematis.org/clematis_a-z/index.html?action=view&ID=00150
>
> Blessings,
> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]
> On Behalf
> Of Kitty
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:46 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Help with plant ID
>
> Updating my own post here.  I went looking for one and Hirt's 
> greenhouse carries it via eBay, as does Joy Creek (sold out) - which 
> lists it as a cross between C. virginiana and C. tubulosa.
> And yes, she shows up in RHS searches of both C. tubulosa and C.  
> virginiana.
> Hmmm....
>
> Kitty
> neIN, Zone 5
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Help with plant ID
>
>
>> Ceres, I googled it and found it listed both as a cultivar of 
>> Clematis jouiniana and C. heracleifolia.
>> Then I checked the name w RHS and they list it as Clematis 'Mrs.  
>> Robert
>> Brydon'.  I wondered if it might be a cross of these 2 species. So I 
>> checked by running Clematis jouiniana and that is actually Clematis x 
>> jouiniana, apparently another hybrid of 2 species.  ANd I noted that 
>> the RHS searches of both C. jouiniana and C. heracleifolia brought up 
>> Clematis
>
>> 'Mrs. Robert Brydon'.
>>
>> I wish someone would create a site for Clematis as findmy roses has 
>> for roses.  They give absolutely everything, right down to the 
>> parentage.
>>
>> BTW - I really WANT this Clematis!
>>
>> Kitty
>> neIN, Zone 5
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <Cersgarden@aol.com>
>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 7:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Help with plant ID
>>
>>
>>> I am most certain it is 'Mrs Robt Brydon' which is a non-vining  
>>> one.   I
>>> have
>>> one growing in a approx 8-9' wooden obelisk painted cobalt  
>>> blue.   It
>>> grows
>>> up thru the support and flows out & down from the top.   'What is  
>>> it' is
>>> always
>>> a frequently asked question by visiters to my garden. This was a 
>>> clematis that was sold one yr at the greenhouse (we usually have 
>>> many varieties perhaps 30
>>> but different ones each yr)   where I work but not a common  
>>> clematis to
>>> our
>>> area.   I saw it in a fabulous garden in Rockford Il last yr.    
>>> Everyone
>>> on the
>>> tour was taken by it but did not know what it was.
>>>     Ceres
>>>
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