Re: Re: Re: chat messages
- To: g*@hort.net
- Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] Re: chat messages
- From: &* <g*@academicplanet.com>
- Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 17:48:54 -0500
That concerns me some - poor baby. Do keep us posted and let me know if I can help!
Pam Evans
Kemp, TX
zone 8A
----- Original Message -----
From: Kitty
Sent: 6/7/2004 4:27:56 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: chat messages
> Pam,
> I did just a little googling and found, "Glaucoma doesn't usually cause eye
> pain unless you have narrow angles. Persons with narrow angles may
> experience a deep, boring pain that can become an emergency if the fluid
> can't filter out of your eye."
>
> This must be what the Vet was talking about. He said the cat, all this
> time, was not excperiencing pain. He pointed out the tilting back as not
> being a problem, nor painful - I'm guessing because of the angle. He said
> if it tilts forward, there would be a problem - I'm guessing that would be a
> narrower angle, causing the above mentioned fluid filter problem - - which
> is what he meant by the eye could blow.
>
> Anyway, even if he is safe for now, I worry that if the cornea is now
> tilting, even in a not-so-bad way, it is that much easier for it to tilt the
> wrong way as well. I'm going to have to be more vigilant and check his eye
> every day for changes. I may have to plan on spending some $$$ here. Last
> week's bill was over $300 and probably another $80-100 next month. Not easy
> on unemployment, though I did plan for it.
>
> Kitty
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 2:50 PM
> Subject: [CHAT] Re: chat messages
>
>
> > Really? Hmmm. I would think the pressure would be painful. Oh GOODY -
> > more thunder and another thunderstorm/wind/hail warning. Golly
> > gee-willikers I just can't wait for another fun filled evening.
> >
> >
> > Pam Evans
> > Kemp, TX
> > zone 8A
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kitty
> > Sent: 6/7/2004 12:55:40 PM
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> >
> > > His opinion has always been that it doesn't seem to bother the cat, they
> >
> > > live a fine life without tinkering with it (his other eye is fine).
> Doesn't
> >
> > > think it warrants the expense. However, I have to go back next month
> for
> >
> > > Slugger's booster shots and Bartonalosis test, so I will discuss
> >
> > > Braveheart's eye problem further with him then.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Time really flies. I think I mentioned my 5 boys range from 3 to 9 yrs.
> Dr
> >
> > > says Slugger is barely 3. But I just checked my files and Jack is 12
> yrs -
> >
> > > that's supposedly 81 in human years. My guess on Braveheart is 10 yrs.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Kitty
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>
> >
> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >
> > > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 12:00 PM
> >
> > > Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > that is frightening, they can treat glaucoma in people, why not
> kitties??
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Pam Evans
> >
> > > > Kemp, TX
> >
> > > > zone 8A
> >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > > From: Kitty
> >
> > > > Sent: 6/7/2004 11:29:05 AM
> >
> > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > Yes, I was a little confused because it was my impression he has had
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > glaucoma all these years as the eye got more cloudy with the passage
> of
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > time. Now the vet said it is a glaucoma. Guess I just didn't
> >
> > > understand
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > the disease. The whole thing has me pretty scared. What if I don't
> >
> > > notice
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > the tilt of the cornea shift forward? An eye "blowing out" on the
> poor
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > little guy sounds frightening to me.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > Kitty
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 3:15 AM
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Kitty: Is that a glaucoma or something your poor Braveheart is
> >
> > > getting?
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > Is that what is causing his cornea to tilt? Poor baby!
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > --Albert Einstein
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > --- On Fri 06/04, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > From: Kitty [mailto: kmrsy@comcast.net]
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 11:32:07 -0500
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > That's sad, Melody. I had a similar situation with a German
> Shepherd
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > years<br>ago, though he never hurt the cats. I had to put him down
> and
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > it was so<br>hard. The cats accidents occurred at a young age, so
> I
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > expect they learned<br>to cope and have taken it more or less in
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > stride.<br><br>You mentioned the peripheral vision problem.
> Braveheart
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > has always had<br>trouble with one eye and it was so cloudy I
> figured
> >
> > > he
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > could no longer see<br>out of it. Today he got his flea shot and
> the
> >
> > > vet
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > noticed the cornea was<br>now tilted back. He said I should watch
> to
> >
> > > be
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > sure it doesn't tilt forward<br>because the eye could blow if it
> did.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Scary.<br><br>Kitty<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:
> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:18 AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > messages<br><br><br>> Poor cats came to us perfectly normal and
> >
> > > healthy
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > as kittens. We had an<br>> aging dog that objected to sharing his
> food
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > with them and they both<br>> walked up to him when he was eating
> and
> >
> > > he
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > grabbed them by the head and<br>> flung them across the kitchen.
> Poor
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Miko (the himalayan) got a broken<br>> jaw and punctured roof of
> his
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > mouth for his trouble. At the time, he was<br>> the only thing our
> >
> > > poor
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > dog had ever objected to...kids could crawl all<br>> over this dog
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > pulling every which way on him and he wouldn't so much as<br>>
> twitch.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > At the time, we just thought it was an accident. A year
> later,<br>>
> >
> > > with
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Katie the second kitten, when the exact same thing happened, we
> >
> > > had<br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > the dog put down. Turned out every one of his litter mates had
> been
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > put<br>> down for brain tumors that resulted in unprovoked
> aggression
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > and the vet<br>> thinks this is what happened with him. Almost
> killed
> >
> > > me
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > to put that dog<br>> to sleep but I couldn't bear the thought of
> this
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > great big gentle dog<br>> whom we loved so much turning into a
> monster
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > and being left with the<br>> memory of him mauling a kid or
> something.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Funny thing is, every dog<br>> we've had since we've been looking
> for
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > him...fo
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > und him in Sidda but had<br>> to put her down, too. Maybe we're
> just
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > cursed when it comes to big<br>> dogs...<br>><br>><br>><br>>
> Melody,
> >
> > > IA
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > (Z 5/4)<br>><br>> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is
> the
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > mysterious."<br>> --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Wed 06/02,
> Kitty
> >
> > > <
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:<br>> From: Kitty [mailto:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Wed, 2
> Jun
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > 2004 09:08:30 -0500<br>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat
> >
> > > messages<br>><br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > That's sad, but...<br>Being animals, they don't know there's a
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > problem;<br>> this is just how it is.<br>Very good of you to take
> on
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > such cats. They<br>> may not allow some grooming<br>from you, but
> I
> >
> > > bet
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > they have developed<br>> some trust in you.<br>Kitty<br><br>-----
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Original Message -----<br>> <br>From: "Melody"
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:<br>> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:16<br>> AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT]
> chat
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > messages<br><br><br>> I agree, Kitty,<br>> that for the most part,
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > animals seem to sense when you<br>> want to help<br>> them, but
> this
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > poor cat of mine was brain damaged when very<br>> little<br>> and
> he's
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > not the sharpest tool in the shed, if you know what I<br>><br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > mean...but we love him anyway. His "sister" cat has the
> same<br>><br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > problem...brain damaged as a small kitten, now kind of slow
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > mentally<br>> and<br>> she has some peripheral vision problems
> from
> >
> > > the
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > temporary<br>> blindness she<br>> suffered with her
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > injuries.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>><br>>
> "The
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > most beautiful thing we can experience<br>> is the
> mysterious."<br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Tue 06/01,<br>> Kitty <
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:<br>> From: Kitty [mailto:<br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Tue, 1
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Jun<br>> 2004 09:22:52 -0500<br>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > messages<br>><br>><br>> > ...if only he was able to see that<br>>
> one
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > thing leads to<br>><br>> another...<br><br>I have several cats
> over
> >
> > > the
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > years and I have had<br>> the<br>> sense that somehow<br>they un
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > de
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > rstand that when I'm doing<br>> something they<br>> don't like to
> them
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > or<br>trying to aid them when<br>> they are afraid - that<br>>
> they
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > trust me. They bear<br>with me, they<br>> sort of steel
> >
> > > themselves<br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > because they seem to understand I<br>must<br>> be doing this for a
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > good<br>> reason. Hard to explain, but they seem<br>>
> to<br>believe
> >
> > > that
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Mom knows<br>> best.<br><br>Kitty<br><br>-----<br>> Original
> Message
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > ----- <br>From:<br>> "Melody"<br>> <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:<br>><br>> Tuesday, June 01, 2004
> 3:45
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat<br>><br>> messages<br><br><br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Libby<br>><br>> : re: the cat with the long hair and snarls:<br>>
> I
> >
> > > have
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > a male<br>> seal<br>> point Himalayan who will not tolerate
> being<br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > brushed.<br>> He<br>> bites...hard...whenever he feels like we've
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > crossed<br>> over<br>> his line for<br>> tolerating the little bit
> of
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > grooming he does<br>><br>> allow. So, we try to keep<br>> up with
> it
> >
> > > as
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > best as possible, but<br>> about<br>> once every year or so we
> >
> > > take<br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > him to the vet and have<br>> him shaved<br>> down to remove the
> >
> > > twisted,
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > snarled<br>> hair. Hair<br>> grows back in fairly<br>> rapidly and
> in
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > much better condition.<br>><br>> Then we start all over
> again.<br>>
> >
> > > Poor
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > guy...if only he was able to see<br>> that<br>> one thing leads
> >
> > > to<br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > another...<br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody,<br>> IA (Z 5/4)<br>><br>>
> "The
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > most<br>> beautiful thing we can experience is<br>> the
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > mysterious."<br>> --Albert<br>> Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Fri
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > 05/28,<br>> Libby Valentine <<br>> L_Valentine@adelphia.net >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > wrote:<br>> From:<br>> Libby Valentine [mailto:<br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > L_Valentine@adelphia.net]<br>> To:<br>> gardenchat@hort.net<br>>
> Date:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Fri,<br>> 28 May 2004 21:29:58 -0400<br>><br>> Subject: Re: Re:
> [CHAT]
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > chat<br>> messages<br>><br>> Hi<br>> everybody,<br><br>I got
> behind
> >
> > > with
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > chat messages<br>> about 4 weeks<br>> ago<br>> and even though I'm
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > trying<br>to skim through 2-3<br>> days<br>> worth every
> night<br>>
> >
> > > now,
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > I still have almost 1800<br>unread in<br>><br>> my chat
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > folder.<br>I know I<br>> missed several birthdays, and a<br>>
> >
> > > whole<br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > thread on cicadas, which are<br>on<br>> the increas<br>><br>><br>>
> e
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > here, and all kinds of other good stuff. Congrats
> on<br>><br>><br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > the<br>successful plant sales! Welcome back DF! Welcome to
> the<br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > other<br>> new<br>> members<br>who are joining in!<br>On the Short
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > One,<br>> for one<br>> summer when<br>> I was little and tagging
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > after<br>> my<br>grandfather<br>> "helping" him with<br>> yardwork
> and
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > gardening,<br>> he nicknamed me<br>> "kid"<br>and I loved it.
> My<br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > grandmother,<br>> however, did not, and<br>> after a couple
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > days,<br>that was<br>> that.<br>> So I think short one is<br>>
> great.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > And I'm glad her arm<br>><br>> is<br>better.<br><br>One of these
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > days<br>> I'll get current. In the<<br>><br>> br<br>> >> meantime,
> I
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > still have about 20<br>plants<br>> on the front porch and<br>> 7
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > yards<br>> of mulch in the driveway.<br>> Weather<br>this
> weekend<br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > looks wonderful so I'm<br>> hoping to get some<br>> gardening
> >
> > > done<br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > in<br>between other commitments.<br>> Anybody have a good<br>>
> trick
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > for<br>> getting snarls out<br>of long cat fur when<br>> the cat
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > will<br>> only<br>> rarely let herself be caught? She's<br>an
> indoor
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > cat<br>> but she's<br>><br>> psychic.<br><br>And boy do I relate
> to
> >
> > > the
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > annoyance with job<br>><br>><br>>
> scenario.<br><br>Libby<br>Maryland
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > zone 6<br><br><br><br>-----<br>><br>> Original<br>> Message -----
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > <br>From: "Kitty"<br>><br>> <kmrsy@comcast.net><br>To:<br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:<br>> Friday,<br>> May 28, 2004
> 10:54
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > AM<br>Subject:<br>> Re: Re: [CHAT] Plant<br>> disaster/ups<br>>
> versus
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > usps<br><br><br>> >archives<br>> show over<br>> 1700<br>> >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > messages<br>> this month<br>><br>> I thought we were<br>><br>>
> pretty
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > chatty. Still, that's<br>> a lot better than what AHS<br>><br>>
> >
> > > was<br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > allowing us when the list was<br>> with them.<br>><br>>
> >
> > > Kitty<br>><br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > -----<br>> Original Message ----- <br>><br>> From:<br>> "Donna"
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > <justme@prairieinet.net><br>><br>> To:<br>><br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > <gardenchat@hort.net><br>>
> >
> > > >
> >
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