Re: Re: Re: chat messages

To: g*@hort.net
Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] Re: chat messages
From: &* <g*@academicplanet.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 17:50:09 -0500
Ouch.  She's got your dinner there buddy.
LOL
Pam Evans
Kemp, TX
zone 8A
----- Original Message -----
From: james singer
Sent: 6/8/2004 5:38:46 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: chat messages

> Not home yet. I finally called her on her cell phone to find out what's  
> going on. She's stuck in a storm generated traffic jam at Tampa  
> International Airport. I reminded her that I was hungry and she needed  
> to get here asap to fix my supper.
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, June 8, 2004, at 04:49 AM, james singer wrote:
> 
> > Comes home today. Of course, if I'd waited until this evening to  
> > reply, I probably could have said "Yes" :>)
> >
> > On Monday, June 7, 2004, at 10:16 PM, ""  
> > <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Did the short one make it home OK?
> >> Pam Evans
> >> Kemp, TX
> >> zone 8A
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: james singer
> >> Sent: 6/7/2004 5:16:35 PM
> >> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: chat messages
> >>
> >>> I've got glaucoma. It's not all that rare among personages of an age  
> >>> I
> >>> have grudgingly reached. Even if I skip the drops--which I usually do
> >>> on weekends, as well as skipping all the other pills that modify my
> >>> heart rate, bowel movements, and general deportment--I don't go  
> >>> blind.
> >>> And so far, I've noticed no change in visual acuity. As far as I  
> >>> know,
> >>> cloudiness of the cornea equals cataracts, not glaucoma. I've had  
> >>> that,
> >>> too. One of the great disadvantages of living in Florida is that the
> >>> brightness of the sun advances the formation of cataracts. But lasers
> >>> zap them out and ophalmalagists replace the corneas with plastic
> >>> implants.
> >>>
> >>> All this brings to mind that Kenneth Fearing wrote a short story for  
> >>> [I
> >>> think] the first issue of "Discovery" magazine [which was really a
> >>> Bantam paperback book and the same issue published William Styron's
> >>> "Long March"] about a society in which humans were having various  
> >>> body
> >>> parts replaced with plastic stuff. As I recall, a chic young woman  
> >>> had
> >>> the pinky of her left hand replaced with a cigarette lighter.
> >>>
> >>> I can't be the only one old enough to remember Fearing, Discovery,  
> >>> and
> >>> this story. Can I? Yeah, maybe. But Styron? Sophie's Choice?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Monday, June 7, 2004, at 05:27 PM, Kitty wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Pam,
> >>>> I did just a little googling and found, "Glaucoma doesn't usually
> >>>> cause eye
> >>>> pain unless you have narrow angles. Persons with narrow angles may
> >>>> experience a deep, boring pain that can become an emergency if the
> >>>> fluid
> >>>> can't filter out of your eye."
> >>>>
> >>>> This must be what the Vet was talking about.  He said the cat, all  
> >>>> this
> >>>> time, was not excperiencing pain.  He pointed out the tilting back  
> >>>> as
> >>>> not
> >>>> being a problem, nor painful - I'm guessing because of the angle.   
> >>>> He
> >>>> said
> >>>> if it tilts forward, there would be a problem - I'm guessing that
> >>>> would be a
> >>>> narrower angle, causing the above mentioned fluid filter problem - -
> >>>> which
> >>>> is what he meant by the eye could blow.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyway, even if he is safe for now, I worry that if the cornea is  
> >>>> now
> >>>> tilting, even in a not-so-bad way, it is that much easier for it to
> >>>> tilt the
> >>>> wrong way as well.  I'm going to have to be more vigilant and check
> >>>> his eye
> >>>> every day for changes.  I may have to plan on spending some $$$  
> >>>> here.
> >>>> Last
> >>>> week's bill was over $300 and probably another $80-100 next month.
> >>>> Not easy
> >>>> on unemployment, though I did plan for it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kitty
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>
> >>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 2:50 PM
> >>>> Subject: [CHAT] Re: chat messages
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Really? Hmmm. I would think the pressure would be painful. Oh  
> >>>>> GOODY -
> >>>>> more thunder and another thunderstorm/wind/hail warning. Golly
> >>>>> gee-willikers I just can't wait for another fun filled evening.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pam Evans
> >>>>> Kemp, TX
> >>>>> zone 8A
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: Kitty
> >>>>> Sent: 6/7/2004 12:55:40 PM
> >>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> His opinion has always been that it doesn't seem to bother the  
> >>>>>> cat,
> >>>>>> they
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> live a fine life without tinkering with it (his other eye is  
> >>>>>> fine).
> >>>> Doesn't
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> think it warrants the expense.  However, I have to go back next  
> >>>>>> month
> >>>> for
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Slugger's booster shots and Bartonalosis test, so I will discuss
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Braveheart's eye problem further with him then.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Time really flies.  I think I mentioned my 5 boys range from 3 to  
> >>>>>> 9
> >>>>>> yrs.
> >>>> Dr
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> says Slugger is barely 3.  But I just checked my files and Jack  
> >>>>>> is 12
> >>>> yrs -
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> that's supposedly 81 in human years.  My guess on Braveheart is 10
> >>>>>> yrs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Kitty
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 12:00 PM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> that is frightening, they can treat glaucoma in people, why not
> >>>> kitties??
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Pam Evans
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Kemp, TX
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> zone 8A
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Kitty
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sent: 6/7/2004 11:29:05 AM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Yes, I was a little confused because it was my impression he has
> >>>>>>>> had
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> glaucoma all these years as the eye got more cloudy with the
> >>>>>>>> passage
> >>>> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> time.  Now the vet said it is a glaucoma.  Guess  I just didn't
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> understand
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the disease.  The whole thing has me pretty scared. What if I  
> >>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> notice
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the tilt of the cornea shift forward?  An eye "blowing out" on  
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>> poor
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> little guy sounds frightening to me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Kitty
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 3:15 AM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Kitty:  Is that a glaucoma or something your poor Braveheart is
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> getting?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Is that what is causing his cornea to tilt?  Poor baby!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --Albert Einstein
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  --- On Fri 06/04, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> From: Kitty [mailto: kmrsy@comcast.net]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 11:32:07 -0500
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That's sad, Melody. I had a similar situation with a German
> >>>> Shepherd
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> years<br>ago, though he never hurt the cats. I had to put him  
> >>>>>>>>> down
> >>>> and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> it was so<br>hard. The cats accidents occurred at a young age,  
> >>>>>>>>> so
> >>>> I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> expect they learned<br>to cope and have taken it more or less  
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> stride.<br><br>You mentioned the peripheral vision problem.
> >>>> Braveheart
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> has always had<br>trouble with one eye and it was so cloudy I
> >>>> figured
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> he
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> could no longer see<br>out of it. Today he got his flea shot  
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> vet
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> noticed the cornea was<br>now tilted back. He said I should  
> >>>>>>>>> watch
> >>>> to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> sure it doesn't tilt forward<br>because the eye could blow if  
> >>>>>>>>> it
> >>>> did.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Scary.<br><br>Kitty<br><br>----- Original Message -----  
> >>>>>>>>> <br>From:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:
> >>>> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:18 AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> messages<br><br><br>> Poor cats came to us perfectly normal and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> healthy
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> as kittens. We had an<br>> aging dog that objected to sharing  
> >>>>>>>>> his
> >>>> food
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> with them and they both<br>> walked up to him when he was  
> >>>>>>>>> eating
> >>>> and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> he
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> grabbed them by the head and<br>> flung them across the  
> >>>>>>>>> kitchen.
> >>>> Poor
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Miko (the himalayan) got a broken<br>> jaw and punctured roof  
> >>>>>>>>> of
> >>>> his
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> mouth for his trouble. At the time, he was<br>> the only thing  
> >>>>>>>>> our
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> poor
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> dog had ever objected to...kids could crawl all<br>> over this  
> >>>>>>>>> dog
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> pulling every which way on him and he wouldn't so much as<br>>
> >>>> twitch.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> At the time, we just thought it was an accident. A year
> >>>> later,<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Katie the second kitten, when the exact same thing happened, we
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> had<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> the dog put down. Turned out every one of his litter mates had
> >>>> been
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> put<br>> down for brain tumors that resulted in unprovoked
> >>>> aggression
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> and the vet<br>> thinks this is what happened with him. Almost
> >>>> killed
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> me
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> to put that dog<br>> to sleep but I couldn't bear the thought  
> >>>>>>>>> of
> >>>> this
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> great big gentle dog<br>> whom we loved so much turning into a
> >>>> monster
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> and being left with the<br>> memory of him mauling a kid or
> >>>> something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Funny thing is, every dog<br>> we've had since we've been  
> >>>>>>>>> looking
> >>>> for
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> him...fo
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> und him in Sidda but had<br>> to put her down, too. Maybe we're
> >>>> just
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> cursed when it comes to big<br>> dogs...<br>><br>><br>><br>>
> >>>> Melody,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> IA
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> (Z 5/4)<br>><br>> "The most beautiful thing we can experience  
> >>>>>>>>> is
> >>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> mysterious."<br>> --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Wed 06/02,
> >>>> Kitty
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> <
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:<br>> From: Kitty [mailto:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date:  
> >>>>>>>>> Wed, 2
> >>>> Jun
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2004 09:08:30 -0500<br>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> messages<br>><br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That's sad, but...<br>Being animals, they don't know there's a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> problem;<br>> this is just how it is.<br>Very good of you to  
> >>>>>>>>> take
> >>>> on
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> such cats. They<br>> may not allow some grooming<br>from you,  
> >>>>>>>>> but
> >>>> I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> bet
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> they have developed<br>> some trust in  
> >>>>>>>>> you.<br>Kitty<br><br>-----
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Original Message -----<br>> <br>From: "Melody"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:<br>>  
> >>>>>>>>> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:16<br>> AM<br>Subject: Re: Re:  
> >>>>>>>>> [CHAT]
> >>>> chat
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> messages<br><br><br>> I agree, Kitty,<br>> that for the most  
> >>>>>>>>> part,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> animals seem to sense when you<br>> want to help<br>> them, but
> >>>> this
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> poor cat of mine was brain damaged when very<br>> little<br>>  
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>> he's
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> not the sharpest tool in the shed, if you know what I<br>><br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> mean...but we love him anyway. His "sister" cat has the
> >>>> same<br>><br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> problem...brain damaged as a small kitten, now kind of slow
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> mentally<br>> and<br>> she has some peripheral vision problems
> >>>> from
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> temporary<br>> blindness she<br>> suffered with her
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> injuries.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>><br>>
> >>>> "The
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> most beautiful thing we can experience<br>> is the
> >>>> mysterious."<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Tue 06/01,<br>> Kitty <
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:<br>> From: Kitty [mailto:<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date:  
> >>>>>>>>> Tue, 1
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jun<br>> 2004 09:22:52 -0500<br>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> messages<br>><br>><br>> > ...if only he was able to see  
> >>>>>>>>> that<br>>
> >>>> one
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> thing leads to<br>><br>> another...<br><br>I have several cats
> >>>> over
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> years and I have had<br>> the<br>> sense that somehow<br>they  
> >>>>>>>>> un
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> de
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> rstand that when I'm doing<br>> something they<br>> don't like  
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>> them
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> or<br>trying to aid them when<br>> they are afraid - that<br>>
> >>>> they
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> trust me. They bear<br>with me, they<br>> sort of steel
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> themselves<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> because they seem to understand I<br>must<br>> be doing this  
> >>>>>>>>> for a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> good<br>> reason. Hard to explain, but they seem<br>>
> >>>> to<br>believe
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Mom knows<br>> best.<br><br>Kitty<br><br>-----<br>> Original
> >>>> Message
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ----- <br>From:<br>> "Melody"<br>> <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:<br>><br>> Tuesday, June 01, 2004
> >>>> 3:45
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat<br>><br>>  
> >>>>>>>>> messages<br><br><br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Libby<br>><br>> : re: the cat with the long hair and  
> >>>>>>>>> snarls:<br>>
> >>>> I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> a male<br>> seal<br>> point Himalayan who will not tolerate
> >>>> being<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> brushed.<br>> He<br>> bites...hard...whenever he feels like  
> >>>>>>>>> we've
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> crossed<br>> over<br>> his line for<br>> tolerating the little  
> >>>>>>>>> bit
> >>>> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> grooming he does<br>><br>> allow. So, we try to keep<br>> up  
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>> it
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> as
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> best as possible, but<br>> about<br>> once every year or so we
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> take<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> him to the vet and have<br>> him shaved<br>> down to remove the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> twisted,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> snarled<br>> hair. Hair<br>> grows back in fairly<br>> rapidly  
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>> in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> much better condition.<br>><br>> Then we start all over
> >>>> again.<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Poor
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> guy...if only he was able to see<br>> that<br>> one thing leads
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> to<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> another...<br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody,<br>> IA (Z  
> >>>>>>>>> 5/4)<br>><br>>
> >>>> "The
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> most<br>> beautiful thing we can experience is<br>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> mysterious."<br>> --Albert<br>> Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Fri
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 05/28,<br>> Libby Valentine <<br>> L_Valentine@adelphia.net >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:<br>> From:<br>> Libby Valentine [mailto:<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> L_Valentine@adelphia.net]<br>> To:<br>>  
> >>>>>>>>> gardenchat@hort.net<br>>
> >>>> Date:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Fri,<br>> 28 May 2004 21:29:58 -0400<br>><br>> Subject: Re: Re:
> >>>> [CHAT]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> chat<br>> messages<br>><br>> Hi<br>> everybody,<br><br>I got
> >>>> behind
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> chat messages<br>> about 4 weeks<br>> ago<br>> and even though  
> >>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> trying<br>to skim through 2-3<br>> days<br>> worth every
> >>>> night<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> now,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I still have almost 1800<br>unread in<br>><br>> my chat
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> folder.<br>I know I<br>> missed several birthdays, and a<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> whole<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> thread on cicadas, which are<br>on<br>> the  
> >>>>>>>>> increas<br>><br>><br>>
> >>>> e
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> here, and all kinds of other good stuff. Congrats
> >>>> on<br>><br>><br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> the<br>successful plant sales! Welcome back DF! Welcome to
> >>>> the<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> other<br>> new<br>> members<br>who are joining in!<br>On the  
> >>>>>>>>> Short
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> One,<br>> for one<br>> summer when<br>> I was little and  
> >>>>>>>>> tagging
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> after<br>> my<br>grandfather<br>> "helping" him with<br>>  
> >>>>>>>>> yardwork
> >>>> and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> gardening,<br>> he nicknamed me<br>> "kid"<br>and I loved it.
> >>>> My<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> grandmother,<br>> however, did not, and<br>> after a couple
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> days,<br>that was<br>> that.<br>> So I think short one is<br>>
> >>>> great.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And I'm glad her arm<br>><br>> is<br>better.<br><br>One of  
> >>>>>>>>> these
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> days<br>> I'll get current. In the<<br>><br>> br<br>> >>  
> >>>>>>>>> meantime,
> >>>> I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> still have about 20<br>plants<br>> on the front porch and<br>>  
> >>>>>>>>> 7
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> yards<br>> of mulch in the driveway.<br>> Weather<br>this
> >>>> weekend<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> looks wonderful so I'm<br>> hoping to get some<br>> gardening
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> done<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> in<br>between other commitments.<br>> Anybody have a good<br>>
> >>>> trick
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> for<br>> getting snarls out<br>of long cat fur when<br>> the  
> >>>>>>>>> cat
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> will<br>> only<br>> rarely let herself be caught? She's<br>an
> >>>> indoor
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> cat<br>> but she's<br>><br>> psychic.<br><br>And boy do I  
> >>>>>>>>> relate
> >>>> to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> annoyance with job<br>><br>><br>>
> >>>> scenario.<br><br>Libby<br>Maryland
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> zone 6<br><br><br><br>-----<br>><br>> Original<br>> Message  
> >>>>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <br>From: "Kitty"<br>><br>> <kmrsy@comcast.net><br>To:<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:<br>> Friday,<br>> May 28, 2004
> >>>> 10:54
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> AM<br>Subject:<br>> Re: Re: [CHAT] Plant<br>> disaster/ups<br>>
> >>>> versus
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> usps<br><br><br>> >archives<br>> show over<br>> 1700<br>> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> messages<br>> this month<br>><br>> I thought we were<br>><br>>
> >>>> pretty
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> chatty. Still, that's<br>> a lot better than what AHS<br>><br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> was<br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> allowing us when the list was<br>> with them.<br>><br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Kitty<br>><br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----<br>> Original Message ----- <br>><br>> From:<br>> "Donna"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <justme@prairieinet.net><br>><br>> To:<br>><br>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>
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