Re: Re: Re: cats teeth and other ways to spend our money

There is a Heartguard chewable for cats, which Sugar used to get before Revolution came down the pike.  She liked it.

Pam Evans
Kemp, TX
zone 8A
----- Original Message -----
From: Libby Valentine
Sent: 6/13/2004 7:42:48 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money

> Wow - gotta admit I've never before heard a connection between heartworm and
> cats!
> I've sometimes wondered when I see a commercial for dogs, but just thought
> cats must not be a host.  So, no, no protection (but mine become indoor cats
> when they join the household), and no information to share, either.
> 
> Concerns are very different for outdoor cats since they do get exposed to so
> much more.
> 
> Libby
> Maryland zone 6
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money
> 
> 
> > Thanks, Libby.  My vet is usually on top what's new and useful.  It's
> > possible he didn't mention the 3yr rabies shot either because he isn't
> > confident in it or because he had already heaped so many new advancements
> on
> > me last year (vac for FIV, FeLuk, and Bartonelosis) that he isn't going to
> > suggest it to me until I have a job.
> >
> > He and I have discussed the vaccine/cancer connection theories and he
> would
> > not vaccinate my cats regularly if they didn't go outdoors.  But he feels
> > their defenses need to be maintained as they are out every day and in
> > contact with who-knows-what.  He feels it is better to protect them with
> the
> > vaccines in their case.  This is also why I get them the FIP shot which is
> > not an automatic vaccination like rabies.  When you weigh the options
> > against their way of life, I think not vaccinating them regularly would be
> a
> > greater risk against all these diseases versus protecting them against the
> > possibility of cancer.
> >
> > The only thing I'm guilty of not getting for them is the heartworm
> > protection.  If they get heartworm, there is no cure for cats; it is
> fatal.
> > It's not nearly as common though, as it is in dogs.  I may look into it
> > again.  If it can be done together with the Program (flea) injection, I
> may
> > opt for it.  But there is no way I am giving a daily or weekly pill to
> five
> > cats.  Anyone else here protect their cat from heartworm?  Any opinions on
> > it?
> >
> > Kitty
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Libby Valentine" <L_Valentine@adelphia.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money
> >
> >
> > > According to my vets, the newest rabies vaccine is good for 3 years,
> > indoors
> > > or out (the first 2 vaccines are 1 year apart, after that, 3 years).
> > > However, some states don't recognize that (here in MD all pets must be
> > > vaccinated for rabies, but at least they now recognize the 3 years after
> > the
> > > first 2 shots).  And there is an on-going study in the veterinary world
> > > regarding the triggering of cancer by vaccines - that's why the vaccines
> > are
> > > given in certain spots, so if lots of cats get cancer in their left
> > > hindquarter, or right shoulder, it may indicate which vaccines are the
> > worst
> > > offenders.  Friend of mine lost her 15-year old to a type of cancer
> > probably
> > > attributable to the feline leukemia vaccine.  Of course, individual
> > > tolerance varies, and need and circumstances vary, and I'm also sure the
> > > manufacturer would disagree with the vet who said it...
> > >
> > > There's also active debate over how often all of the other vaccinations
> > > should be/need to be given.  Makes for interesting reading - folks
> writing
> > > about it tend to be pretty passionate about their views..
> > >
> > > Libby
> > > Maryland zone 6
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 11:12 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yes, a lot of talk has been made about pets getting cancer from too
> > > frequent
> > > > vaccinations.  It has been suggested that it is only necessary for an
> > > indoor
> > > > pets to get the rabies vac every 3 yrs.  Mine need them every year
> > because
> > > > they are outdoors.  Also, the manufacturer, who of course does not
> > agree,
> > > > will pay up to $1500 in medical care if the pet does contract a
> problem
> > > > related to vaccinations.
> > > >
> > > > Kitty
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>
> > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 9:33 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I just found out yesterday from Dr. Lisa that the rabies shot only
> has
> > > > > to be done every three years now. So hers is good until 2007. She
> > still
> > > > > needs to come in yearly for exam and other shots. Don't know if
> that's
> > > > > here or everywhere. But less shots is good - comfort-wise for the
> baby
> > > > > and pocketbook-wise for mama.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Pam Evans
> > > > > Kemp, TX
> > > > > zone 8A
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Kitty
> > > > > Sent: 6/12/2004 8:34:48 PM
> > > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money
> > > > >
> > > > > > The office visit is $18.00, then add:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Feline Lukemia booster vaccination, $15.00
> > > > >
> > > > > > Feline Infectious Peritonitis booster vaccination, $15.00
> > > > >
> > > > > > Feline Immuno Virus booster vaccination, $15.00
> > > > >
> > > > > > Rabies booster vaccination, $10.00
> > > > >
> > > > > > Distemper/Calici/Rhino-TR booster vaccination, $15.00
> > > > >
> > > > > > 6 month Flea Program shot, $30.00
> > > > >
> > > > > > And he checks the mouth and gums, ears, etc., and cleans the
> teeth,
> > no
> > > > >
> > > > > > charge.
> > > > >
> > > > > > so that's $118.00 a year times 5.....if none of them gets in any
> > > > trouble.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Also, all but Slugger have been checked and/or treated for
> > > Bartonelosis
> > > > (Cat
> > > > >
> > > > > > Scratch Fever).  That's $30 for the test and then I don't recall
> the
> > > > cost
> > > > >
> > > > > > for treatment.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Kitty
> >
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