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Re: Re: Re: cats teeth and other ways to spend our money


No, LOL, NO, no......I am not getting into giving pills to all these cats.
And they wouldn't chew it, they would spit it out...even if it were caviar
flavor.
Kitty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money


> There is a Heartguard chewable for cats, which Sugar used to get before
Revolution came down the pike.  She liked it.
>
> Pam Evans
> Kemp, TX
> zone 8A
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Libby Valentine
> Sent: 6/13/2004 7:42:48 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money
>
> > Wow - gotta admit I've never before heard a connection between heartworm
and
> > cats!
> > I've sometimes wondered when I see a commercial for dogs, but just
thought
> > cats must not be a host.  So, no, no protection (but mine become indoor
cats
> > when they join the household), and no information to share, either.
> >
> > Concerns are very different for outdoor cats since they do get exposed
to so
> > much more.
> >
> > Libby
> > Maryland zone 6
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 4:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money
> >
> >
> > > Thanks, Libby.  My vet is usually on top what's new and useful.  It's
> > > possible he didn't mention the 3yr rabies shot either because he isn't
> > > confident in it or because he had already heaped so many new
advancements
> > on
> > > me last year (vac for FIV, FeLuk, and Bartonelosis) that he isn't
going to
> > > suggest it to me until I have a job.
> > >
> > > He and I have discussed the vaccine/cancer connection theories and he
> > would
> > > not vaccinate my cats regularly if they didn't go outdoors.  But he
feels
> > > their defenses need to be maintained as they are out every day and in
> > > contact with who-knows-what.  He feels it is better to protect them
with
> > the
> > > vaccines in their case.  This is also why I get them the FIP shot
which is
> > > not an automatic vaccination like rabies.  When you weigh the options
> > > against their way of life, I think not vaccinating them regularly
would be
> > a
> > > greater risk against all these diseases versus protecting them against
the
> > > possibility of cancer.
> > >
> > > The only thing I'm guilty of not getting for them is the heartworm
> > > protection.  If they get heartworm, there is no cure for cats; it is
> > fatal.
> > > It's not nearly as common though, as it is in dogs.  I may look into
it
> > > again.  If it can be done together with the Program (flea) injection,
I
> > may
> > > opt for it.  But there is no way I am giving a daily or weekly pill to
> > five
> > > cats.  Anyone else here protect their cat from heartworm?  Any
opinions on
> > > it?
> > >
> > > Kitty
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Libby Valentine" <L_Valentine@adelphia.net>
> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money
> > >
> > >
> > > > According to my vets, the newest rabies vaccine is good for 3 years,
> > > indoors
> > > > or out (the first 2 vaccines are 1 year apart, after that, 3 years).
> > > > However, some states don't recognize that (here in MD all pets must
be
> > > > vaccinated for rabies, but at least they now recognize the 3 years
after
> > > the
> > > > first 2 shots).  And there is an on-going study in the veterinary
world
> > > > regarding the triggering of cancer by vaccines - that's why the
vaccines
> > > are
> > > > given in certain spots, so if lots of cats get cancer in their left
> > > > hindquarter, or right shoulder, it may indicate which vaccines are
the
> > > worst
> > > > offenders.  Friend of mine lost her 15-year old to a type of cancer
> > > probably
> > > > attributable to the feline leukemia vaccine.  Of course, individual
> > > > tolerance varies, and need and circumstances vary, and I'm also sure
the
> > > > manufacturer would disagree with the vet who said it...
> > > >
> > > > There's also active debate over how often all of the other
vaccinations
> > > > should be/need to be given.  Makes for interesting reading - folks
> > writing
> > > > about it tend to be pretty passionate about their views..
> > > >
> > > > Libby
> > > > Maryland zone 6
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 11:12 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Yes, a lot of talk has been made about pets getting cancer from
too
> > > > frequent
> > > > > vaccinations.  It has been suggested that it is only necessary for
an
> > > > indoor
> > > > > pets to get the rabies vac every 3 yrs.  Mine need them every year
> > > because
> > > > > they are outdoors.  Also, the manufacturer, who of course does not
> > > agree,
> > > > > will pay up to $1500 in medical care if the pet does contract a
> > problem
> > > > > related to vaccinations.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kitty
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>
> > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 9:33 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our
money
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I just found out yesterday from Dr. Lisa that the rabies shot
only
> > has
> > > > > > to be done every three years now. So hers is good until 2007.
She
> > > still
> > > > > > needs to come in yearly for exam and other shots. Don't know if
> > that's
> > > > > > here or everywhere. But less shots is good - comfort-wise for
the
> > baby
> > > > > > and pocketbook-wise for mama.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pam Evans
> > > > > > Kemp, TX
> > > > > > zone 8A
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Kitty
> > > > > > Sent: 6/12/2004 8:34:48 PM
> > > > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The office visit is $18.00, then add:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Feline Lukemia booster vaccination, $15.00
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Feline Infectious Peritonitis booster vaccination, $15.00
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Feline Immuno Virus booster vaccination, $15.00
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rabies booster vaccination, $10.00
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Distemper/Calici/Rhino-TR booster vaccination, $15.00
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 6 month Flea Program shot, $30.00
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > And he checks the mouth and gums, ears, etc., and cleans the
> > teeth,
> > > no
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > charge.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > so that's $118.00 a year times 5.....if none of them gets in
any
> > > > > trouble.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, all but Slugger have been checked and/or treated for
> > > > Bartonelosis
> > > > > (Cat
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scratch Fever).  That's $30 for the test and then I don't
recall
> > the
> > > > > cost
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > for treatment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kitty
> > >
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