Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: cats teeth and other ways to spend our money

Mick will only eat certain kinds.  Jack and Braveheart are usually game.
Slugger usually won't eat a treat.   Seamus (18.5 #) will rarely touch any
treat.

Kitty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our
money


> They won't eat treats?? Stop it!! Ohmigosh, mine will darn near knock
> you down for a treat, like she needs it w/ her 15.9 pound self. Auntie
> Jesse contributed greatly to the spoiling of this baby, believe it!
>
>
> Pam Evans
> Kemp, TX
> zone 8A
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kitty
> Sent: 6/14/2004 9:11:33 AM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our
money
>
> > I have some who won't eat "nummy" treats.
>
> >
>
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>
> > From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>
>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>
> > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 5:57 AM
>
> > Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our
money
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > It's not a pill - it's like a nummy treat.  I couldn't get a pill in
her
>
> > highness for love nor money.
>
> > >
>
> > > Pam Evans
>
> > > Kemp, TX
>
> > > zone 8A
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > > From: Kitty
>
> > > Sent: 6/13/2004 11:41:14 PM
>
> > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
>
> > > Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our
money
>
> > >
>
> > > > No, LOL, NO, no......I am not getting into giving pills to all these
>
> > cats.
>
> > >
>
> > > > And they wouldn't chew it, they would spit it out...even if it were
>
> > caviar
>
> > >
>
> > > > flavor.
>
> > >
>
> > > > Kitty
>
> > >
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>
> > >
>
> > > > From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>
>
> > >
>
> > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>
> > >
>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:48 PM
>
> > >
>
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our
money
>
> > >
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > There is a Heartguard chewable for cats, which Sugar used to get
>
> > before
>
> > >
>
> > > > Revolution came down the pike.  She liked it.
>
> > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > Pam Evans
>
> > >
>
> > > > > Kemp, TX
>
> > >
>
> > > > > zone 8A
>
> > >
>
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > >
>
> > > > > From: Libby Valentine
>
> > >
>
> > > > > Sent: 6/13/2004 7:42:48 PM
>
> > >
>
> > > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
>
> > >
>
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our
money
>
> > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > Wow - gotta admit I've never before heard a connection between
>
> > heartworm
>
> > >
>
> > > > and
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > cats!
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > I've sometimes wondered when I see a commercial for dogs, but
just
>
> > >
>
> > > > thought
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > cats must not be a host.  So, no, no protection (but mine become
>
> > indoor
>
> > >
>
> > > > cats
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > when they join the household), and no information to share,
either.
>
> > >
>
> > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > Concerns are very different for outdoor cats since they do get
>
> > exposed
>
> > >
>
> > > > to so
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > much more.
>
> > >
>
> > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > Libby
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > Maryland zone 6
>
> > >
>
> > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 4:19 PM
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our
money
>
> > >
>
> > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > Thanks, Libby.  My vet is usually on top what's new and
useful.
>
> > It's
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > possible he didn't mention the 3yr rabies shot either because
he
>
> > isn't
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > confident in it or because he had already heaped so many new
>
> > >
>
> > > > advancements
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > on
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > me last year (vac for FIV, FeLuk, and Bartonelosis) that he
isn't
>
> > >
>
> > > > going to
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > suggest it to me until I have a job.
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > He and I have discussed the vaccine/cancer connection theories
and
>
> > he
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > would
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > not vaccinate my cats regularly if they didn't go outdoors.
But
>
> > he
>
> > >
>
> > > > feels
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > their defenses need to be maintained as they are out every day
and
>
> > in
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > contact with who-knows-what.  He feels it is better to protect
>
> > them
>
> > >
>
> > > > with
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > the
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > vaccines in their case.  This is also why I get them the FIP
shot
>
> > >
>
> > > > which is
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > not an automatic vaccination like rabies.  When you weigh the
>
> > options
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > against their way of life, I think not vaccinating them
regularly
>
> > >
>
> > > > would be
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > a
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > greater risk against all these diseases versus protecting them
>
> > against
>
> > >
>
> > > > the
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > possibility of cancer.
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > The only thing I'm guilty of not getting for them is the
heartworm
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > protection.  If they get heartworm, there is no cure for cats;
it
>
> > is
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > fatal.
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > It's not nearly as common though, as it is in dogs.  I may
look
>
> > into
>
> > >
>
> > > > it
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > again.  If it can be done together with the Program (flea)
>
> > injection,
>
> > >
>
> > > > I
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > may
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > opt for it.  But there is no way I am giving a daily or weekly
>
> > pill to
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > five
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > cats.  Anyone else here protect their cat from heartworm?  Any
>
> > >
>
> > > > opinions on
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > it?
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > Kitty
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > From: "Libby Valentine" <L_Valentine@adelphia.net>
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:10 PM
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our
>
> > money
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > According to my vets, the newest rabies vaccine is good for
3
>
> > years,
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > indoors
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > or out (the first 2 vaccines are 1 year apart, after that, 3
>
> > years).
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > However, some states don't recognize that (here in MD all
pets
>
> > must
>
> > >
>
> > > > be
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > vaccinated for rabies, but at least they now recognize the 3
>
> > years
>
> > >
>
> > > > after
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > the
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > first 2 shots).  And there is an on-going study in the
>
> > veterinary
>
> > >
>
> > > > world
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > regarding the triggering of cancer by vaccines - that's why
the
>
> > >
>
> > > > vaccines
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > are
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > given in certain spots, so if lots of cats get cancer in
their
>
> > left
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > hindquarter, or right shoulder, it may indicate which
vaccines
>
> > are
>
> > >
>
> > > > the
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > worst
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > offenders.  Friend of mine lost her 15-year old to a type of
>
> > cancer
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > probably
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > attributable to the feline leukemia vaccine.  Of course,
>
> > individual
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > tolerance varies, and need and circumstances vary, and I'm
also
>
> > sure
>
> > >
>
> > > > the
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > manufacturer would disagree with the vet who said it...
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > There's also active debate over how often all of the other
>
> > >
>
> > > > vaccinations
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > should be/need to be given.  Makes for interesting reading -
>
> > folks
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > writing
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > about it tend to be pretty passionate about their views..
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > Libby
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > Maryland zone 6
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 11:12 PM
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend
our
>
> > money
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > Yes, a lot of talk has been made about pets getting cancer
>
> > from
>
> > >
>
> > > > too
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > frequent
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > vaccinations.  It has been suggested that it is only
necessary
>
> > for
>
> > >
>
> > > > an
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > indoor
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > pets to get the rabies vac every 3 yrs.  Mine need them
every
>
> > year
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > because
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > they are outdoors.  Also, the manufacturer, who of course
does
>
> > not
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > agree,
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > will pay up to $1500 in medical care if the pet does
contract
>
> > a
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > problem
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > related to vaccinations.
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > Kitty
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 9:33 PM
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend
our
>
> > >
>
> > > > money
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > I just found out yesterday from Dr. Lisa that the rabies
>
> > shot
>
> > >
>
> > > > only
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > has
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > to be done every three years now. So hers is good until
>
> > 2007.
>
> > >
>
> > > > She
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > still
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > needs to come in yearly for exam and other shots. Don't
know
>
> > if
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > that's
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > here or everywhere. But less shots is good -
comfort-wise
>
> > for
>
> > >
>
> > > > the
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > baby
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > and pocketbook-wise for mama.
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > Pam Evans
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > Kemp, TX
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > zone 8A
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > From: Kitty
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: 6/12/2004 8:34:48 PM
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend
our
>
> > money
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > The office visit is $18.00, then add:
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Feline Lukemia booster vaccination, $15.00
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Feline Infectious Peritonitis booster vaccination,
$15.00
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Feline Immuno Virus booster vaccination, $15.00
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Rabies booster vaccination, $10.00
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Distemper/Calici/Rhino-TR booster vaccination, $15.00
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > 6 month Flea Program shot, $30.00
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > And he checks the mouth and gums, ears, etc., and
cleans
>
> > the
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > teeth,
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > no
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > charge.
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > so that's $118.00 a year times 5.....if none of them
gets
>
> > in
>
> > >
>
> > > > any
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > trouble.
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Also, all but Slugger have been checked and/or treated
for
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > Bartonelosis
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > (Cat
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Scratch Fever).  That's $30 for the test and then I
don't
>
> > >
>
> > > > recall
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > the
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > cost
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > for treatment.
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > Kitty
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> > >
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> > > > > > >
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> > >
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