Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: cats teeth and other ways to spend our money

They won't eat treats?? Stop it!! Ohmigosh, mine will darn near knock
you down for a treat, like she needs it w/ her 15.9 pound self. Auntie
Jesse contributed greatly to the spoiling of this baby, believe it!


Pam Evans
Kemp, TX
zone 8A
----- Original Message -----
From: Kitty
Sent: 6/14/2004 9:11:33 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money

> I have some who won't eat "nummy" treats.

> 

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>

> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>

> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 5:57 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money

> 

> 

> > It's not a pill - it's like a nummy treat.  I couldn't get a pill in her

> highness for love nor money.

> >

> > Pam Evans

> > Kemp, TX

> > zone 8A

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Kitty

> > Sent: 6/13/2004 11:41:14 PM

> > To: gardenchat@hort.net

> > Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money

> >

> > > No, LOL, NO, no......I am not getting into giving pills to all these

> cats.

> >

> > > And they wouldn't chew it, they would spit it out...even if it were

> caviar

> >

> > > flavor.

> >

> > > Kitty

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ----- Original Message ----- 

> >

> > > From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>

> >

> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>

> >

> > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:48 PM

> >

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > There is a Heartguard chewable for cats, which Sugar used to get

> before

> >

> > > Revolution came down the pike.  She liked it.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Pam Evans

> >

> > > > Kemp, TX

> >

> > > > zone 8A

> >

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> >

> > > > From: Libby Valentine

> >

> > > > Sent: 6/13/2004 7:42:48 PM

> >

> > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net

> >

> > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > Wow - gotta admit I've never before heard a connection between

> heartworm

> >

> > > and

> >

> > > > > cats!

> >

> > > > > I've sometimes wondered when I see a commercial for dogs, but just

> >

> > > thought

> >

> > > > > cats must not be a host.  So, no, no protection (but mine become

> indoor

> >

> > > cats

> >

> > > > > when they join the household), and no information to share, either.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Concerns are very different for outdoor cats since they do get

> exposed

> >

> > > to so

> >

> > > > > much more.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Libby

> >

> > > > > Maryland zone 6

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 

> >

> > > > > From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>

> >

> > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>

> >

> > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 4:19 PM

> >

> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our money

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > Thanks, Libby.  My vet is usually on top what's new and useful.

> It's

> >

> > > > > > possible he didn't mention the 3yr rabies shot either because he

> isn't

> >

> > > > > > confident in it or because he had already heaped so many new

> >

> > > advancements

> >

> > > > > on

> >

> > > > > > me last year (vac for FIV, FeLuk, and Bartonelosis) that he isn't

> >

> > > going to

> >

> > > > > > suggest it to me until I have a job.

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > He and I have discussed the vaccine/cancer connection theories and

> he

> >

> > > > > would

> >

> > > > > > not vaccinate my cats regularly if they didn't go outdoors.  But

> he

> >

> > > feels

> >

> > > > > > their defenses need to be maintained as they are out every day and

> in

> >

> > > > > > contact with who-knows-what.  He feels it is better to protect

> them

> >

> > > with

> >

> > > > > the

> >

> > > > > > vaccines in their case.  This is also why I get them the FIP shot

> >

> > > which is

> >

> > > > > > not an automatic vaccination like rabies.  When you weigh the

> options

> >

> > > > > > against their way of life, I think not vaccinating them regularly

> >

> > > would be

> >

> > > > > a

> >

> > > > > > greater risk against all these diseases versus protecting them

> against

> >

> > > the

> >

> > > > > > possibility of cancer.

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > The only thing I'm guilty of not getting for them is the heartworm

> >

> > > > > > protection.  If they get heartworm, there is no cure for cats; it

> is

> >

> > > > > fatal.

> >

> > > > > > It's not nearly as common though, as it is in dogs.  I may look

> into

> >

> > > it

> >

> > > > > > again.  If it can be done together with the Program (flea)

> injection,

> >

> > > I

> >

> > > > > may

> >

> > > > > > opt for it.  But there is no way I am giving a daily or weekly

> pill to

> >

> > > > > five

> >

> > > > > > cats.  Anyone else here protect their cat from heartworm?  Any

> >

> > > opinions on

> >

> > > > > > it?

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > Kitty

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 

> >

> > > > > > From: "Libby Valentine" <L_Valentine@adelphia.net>

> >

> > > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>

> >

> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:10 PM

> >

> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our

> money

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > According to my vets, the newest rabies vaccine is good for 3

> years,

> >

> > > > > > indoors

> >

> > > > > > > or out (the first 2 vaccines are 1 year apart, after that, 3

> years).

> >

> > > > > > > However, some states don't recognize that (here in MD all pets

> must

> >

> > > be

> >

> > > > > > > vaccinated for rabies, but at least they now recognize the 3

> years

> >

> > > after

> >

> > > > > > the

> >

> > > > > > > first 2 shots).  And there is an on-going study in the

> veterinary

> >

> > > world

> >

> > > > > > > regarding the triggering of cancer by vaccines - that's why the

> >

> > > vaccines

> >

> > > > > > are

> >

> > > > > > > given in certain spots, so if lots of cats get cancer in their

> left

> >

> > > > > > > hindquarter, or right shoulder, it may indicate which vaccines

> are

> >

> > > the

> >

> > > > > > worst

> >

> > > > > > > offenders.  Friend of mine lost her 15-year old to a type of

> cancer

> >

> > > > > > probably

> >

> > > > > > > attributable to the feline leukemia vaccine.  Of course,

> individual

> >

> > > > > > > tolerance varies, and need and circumstances vary, and I'm also

> sure

> >

> > > the

> >

> > > > > > > manufacturer would disagree with the vet who said it...

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > There's also active debate over how often all of the other

> >

> > > vaccinations

> >

> > > > > > > should be/need to be given.  Makes for interesting reading -

> folks

> >

> > > > > writing

> >

> > > > > > > about it tend to be pretty passionate about their views..

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Libby

> >

> > > > > > > Maryland zone 6

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 

> >

> > > > > > > From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>

> >

> > > > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>

> >

> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 11:12 PM

> >

> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our

> money

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > Yes, a lot of talk has been made about pets getting cancer

> from

> >

> > > too

> >

> > > > > > > frequent

> >

> > > > > > > > vaccinations.  It has been suggested that it is only necessary

> for

> >

> > > an

> >

> > > > > > > indoor

> >

> > > > > > > > pets to get the rabies vac every 3 yrs.  Mine need them every

> year

> >

> > > > > > because

> >

> > > > > > > > they are outdoors.  Also, the manufacturer, who of course does

> not

> >

> > > > > > agree,

> >

> > > > > > > > will pay up to $1500 in medical care if the pet does contract

> a

> >

> > > > > problem

> >

> > > > > > > > related to vaccinations.

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > Kitty

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 

> >

> > > > > > > > From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>

> >

> > > > > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>

> >

> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 9:33 PM

> >

> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our

> >

> > > money

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > I just found out yesterday from Dr. Lisa that the rabies

> shot

> >

> > > only

> >

> > > > > has

> >

> > > > > > > > > to be done every three years now. So hers is good until

> 2007.

> >

> > > She

> >

> > > > > > still

> >

> > > > > > > > > needs to come in yearly for exam and other shots. Don't know

> if

> >

> > > > > that's

> >

> > > > > > > > > here or everywhere. But less shots is good - comfort-wise

> for

> >

> > > the

> >

> > > > > baby

> >

> > > > > > > > > and pocketbook-wise for mama.

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > Pam Evans

> >

> > > > > > > > > Kemp, TX

> >

> > > > > > > > > zone 8A

> >

> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> >

> > > > > > > > > From: Kitty

> >

> > > > > > > > > Sent: 6/12/2004 8:34:48 PM

> >

> > > > > > > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net

> >

> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] cats teeth and other ways to spend our

> money

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > The office visit is $18.00, then add:

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > Feline Lukemia booster vaccination, $15.00

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > Feline Infectious Peritonitis booster vaccination, $15.00

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > Feline Immuno Virus booster vaccination, $15.00

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > Rabies booster vaccination, $10.00

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > Distemper/Calici/Rhino-TR booster vaccination, $15.00

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > 6 month Flea Program shot, $30.00

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > And he checks the mouth and gums, ears, etc., and cleans

> the

> >

> > > > > teeth,

> >

> > > > > > no

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > charge.

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > so that's $118.00 a year times 5.....if none of them gets

> in

> >

> > > any

> >

> > > > > > > > trouble.

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > Also, all but Slugger have been checked and/or treated for

> >

> > > > > > > Bartonelosis

> >

> > > > > > > > (Cat

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > Scratch Fever).  That's $30 for the test and then I don't

> >

> > > recall

> >

> > > > > the

> >

> > > > > > > > cost

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > for treatment.

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > Kitty

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > >

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