Re:: Air Layering

Pam: Do you work someplace that has enforced mandatory overtime?
Ugh...thank goodness our nurses here are unionized or I'd probably be
doing the same thing...



Melody, IA (Z 5/4)

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
--Albert Einstein

 --- On Thu 06/24,  < gardenqueen@academicplanet.com > wrote:
From:  [mailto: gardenqueen@academicplanet.com]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:24:46 -0500
Subject: Re:: [CHAT] Air Layering

Can't make it doll - will most likely have to work that Saturday. Bad at
work right now, they're flogging us to death...<br><br>Pam
Evans<br>Kemp, TX<br>zone 8A<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From:
Jesse Bell<br>Sent: 6/24/2004 6:22:01 AM<br>To:
gardenchat@hort.net<br>Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] Air Layering<br><br>>
Pam, when you come up for the wedding...I will show you how my brother
does it.<br>> <br>> Jess<br>> <br>> "Richard T. Apking"
<richa@midlands.net> wrote:<br>> Regarding the air-layering, it's only
necessary to have a vertical branch if<br>> you are using the device you
all have been talking about. The old fashioned<br>> way, using wraps and
tapes, can be done on a horizontal branch as well.<br>> However, in my
somewhat limited experience, either way(horizontal or<br>> vertical)
will work, and Pam, your viburnam's are among the easiest to air<br>>
layer or start from cuttings. Rich in Z-5 where today's high will
almost<br>> reach 70.<br>> ----- Original Message ----- <br>> From:
<br>> To: <br>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:01 AM<br>> Subject: Re:
Re: Re: [CHAT] Air Layering<br>> <br>> <br>> > Hmm, my viburnums are
more horizontal than vertical too. But do keep me<br>> posted
please!<br>> ><br>> > Pam Evans<br>> > Kemp, TX<br>> > zone 8A<br>> >
----- Original Message -----<br>> > From: Kitty<br>> > Sent: 6/23/2004
10:39:42 PM<br>> > To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> > Subject: Re: Re:
[CHAT] Air Layering<br>> ><br>> > > I've got one started now, we'll see.
The tricky part was that the limb<br>> used<br>> ><br>> > > must be
vertical and my Magnolia is virtually all horizontal. So I had<br>>
to<br>> ><br>> > > tie the limb up to make this work. This doesn't seem
to be necessary in<br>> ><br>> > > regular air layering.<br>> ><br>> >
><br>> ><br>> > > Kitty<br>> ><br>> > ><br>> ><br>> > > ----- Original
Message ----- <br>> ><br>> > > From: <br>> ><br>> > > To: <br>> ><br>> >
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:33 PM<br>> ><br>> > > Subject: Re:
Re: [CHAT] Air Layering<br>> ><br>> > ><br>> ><br>> > ><b

r>> ><br>> > > > Has anyone tried those rooter pots? Do they work?<br>>
><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > Pam Evans<br>> ><br>> > > > Kemp, TX<br>>
><br>> > > > zone 8A<br>> ><br>> > > > ----- Original Message -----<br>>
><br>> > > > From: Kitty<br>> ><br>> > > > Sent: 6/22/2004 7:49:40
PM<br>> ><br>> > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> ><br>> > > > Subject:
Re: [CHAT] Air Layering<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > >
Libby,<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > I found this description w/
illustration:<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > >
http://www.texas-rose-rustlers.com/propagat.htm<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
><br>> > > > > In addition to the sphagnum-wrap air layering I was
familiar with,<br>> they<br>> ><br>> > > show<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
><br>> > > > > another method called the Tape Method. I found it very
interesting<br>> and<br>> ><br>> > > just<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>>
> > > > might try it.<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > And here's
another one that covers several types of layering.<br>> ><br>> > >
><br>> ><br>> > > > >

    http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/hil/hil-8701.html<br>>

><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > >
Kitty<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
><br>> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- <br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
><br>> > > > > From: "Libby Valentine" <br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> >
> > > To: <br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22,
2004 4:35 PM<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT]
Air Layering<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > ><br>> ><br>> > >
><br>> ><br>> > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > Anybody
care to do the 2 minute summary for those of us who are<br>> not<br>>
><br>> > > plant<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > propagators?
(yet!)<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
><br>> > > > > > Thanks!<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > ><br>>
><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > Libby<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> >
> > > > MD zone 6<br>> ><br>> > > >

<b
r>> ><br>> > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > -----
Original Message ----- <br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > From:
"Donna" <br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > To: <br>> ><br>> > >
><br>> ><br>> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 10:13 PM<br>> ><br>>
> > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > Subject: RE: [CHAT] Air Layering<br>> ><br>>
> > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > ><br>>
><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > Well Jim... now that is
interesting!<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > >
><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > You are saying that even after time in the
ground, something<br>> that<br>> ><br>> > > was<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
><br>> > > > > > > 'air layered' will never get a tap root? How in the
world can<br>> they<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > survive
for any length of time without one?<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > >
> > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > I have to admit I know
nothing about air layering other than a<br>> 1/2<br>> ><br>> > >
hour<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > special that included
some highlights among other things. Not<br>> enough<br>> ><br>> > >
><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > info to really understand the process or how
it worked.<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > >
><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > I am majorly confused here. ... nothing
new:)<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
><br>> > > > > > > Donna<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > >
Hum... must of us got here.... like some of us didn't? LOL!<br>> ><br>>
> > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > >
> I've done some air layering, Jesse, but not a lot. It is the<br>>
way<br>> ><br>> > > most<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > >
litchis, macadamia nuts, and rubber plants [Ficus elastica],<br>>
and,<br>> ><br>> > > I'm<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > >
sure, many other plants are usually propagated. The Royal<br>> ><br>> >
> Horticulture<br>> ><br>> > >

><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > > Society's propagation book [AHS published it
as "Plant<br>> ><br>> > > Propagation"]<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> >
> > > > > > has very good instructions in how to air layer stuff.<br>>
><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > >
> > > > > The one disadvantage to air layering [verses propagation
by<br>> seed<br>> ><br>> > > or by<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > >
> > > grafting scion wood onto a seedling] is that the air layered<br>>
><br>> > > clones<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > > will not
produce tap roots. Most of the commercial litchi<br>> orchards<br>>
><br>> > > in<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > > south Florida
were simply blown away by hurricane Andrew<br>> because<br>> ><br>> > >
the<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > > trees had no tap
roots.<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > ><br>> ><br>> > >
><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > > I think the general rule is that any plant
that can be<br>> propagated<br>> ><br>> > > by<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
><br>> > > > > > > > cuttings, can also be air layered, but there are
other<br>> plants--the<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > >
afore-mentioned macadamias and rubber plants--that do not [or<br>>
only<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > > rarely] respond as
cuttings. Cuttings have the same<br>> no-tap-root<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>>
><br>> > > > > > > problem<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > >
that air layers have but generally they are easier to<br>>
propagate<br>> ><br>> > > and<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > >
> require a whole lot less time to do so. I usually try cuttings<br>>
><br>> > > first;<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > > then air
layering; then seedling and grafting [provided, of<br>> ><br>> > >
course, I<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > > have seedlings and
access to scion wood].<br>> ><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > ><br>>
><br>> > > ><br>> ><br>> > > > > > > > Sometimes I do just seedlings.
"Just seedlings" is

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