Re: Re:: Air Layering

Do please.  I'm sure you will be stunning indeed.  Robert too, good lookin' cuss that he is.

Pam Evans
Kemp, TX
zone 8A
----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Bell
Sent: 6/25/2004 2:34:40 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re:: [CHAT] Air Layering

> Really? That's too bad. Well, it will be hectic here anyway...house full
> of people...which would make you feel jiggy anyway. That's O.K., I'll
> send pics!
> 
> 
> 
> <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com> wrote:
> Can't make it doll - will most likely have to work that Saturday. Bad at work right now, they're flogging us to death...
> 
> Pam Evans
> Kemp, TX
> zone 8A
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jesse Bell
> Sent: 6/24/2004 6:22:01 AM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] Air Layering
> 
> > Pam, when you come up for the wedding...I will show you how my brother does it.
> > 
> > Jess
> > 
> > "Richard T. Apking" wrote:
> > Regarding the air-layering, it's only necessary to have a vertical branch if
> > you are using the device you all have been talking about. The old fashioned
> > way, using wraps and tapes, can be done on a horizontal branch as well.
> > However, in my somewhat limited experience, either way(horizontal or
> > vertical) will work, and Pam, your viburnam's are among the easiest to air
> > layer or start from cuttings. Rich in Z-5 where today's high will almost
> > reach 70.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] Air Layering
> > 
> > 
> > > Hmm, my viburnums are more horizontal than vertical too. But do keep me
> > posted please!
> > >
> > > Pam Evans
> > > Kemp, TX
> > > zone 8A
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Kitty
> > > Sent: 6/23/2004 10:39:42 PM
> > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] Air Layering
> > >
> > > > I've got one started now, we'll see. The tricky part was that the limb
> > used
> > >
> > > > must be vertical and my Magnolia is virtually all horizontal. So I had
> > to
> > >
> > > > tie the limb up to make this work. This doesn't seem to be necessary in
> > >
> > > > regular air layering.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Kitty
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >
> > > > From: 
> > >
> > > > To: 
> > >
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:33 PM
> > >
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] Air Layering
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > Has anyone tried those rooter pots? Do they work?
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Pam Evans
> > >
> > > > > Kemp, TX
> > >
> > > > > zone 8A
> > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > > > From: Kitty
> > >
> > > > > Sent: 6/22/2004 7:49:40 PM
> > >
> > > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Air Layering
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Libby,
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > I found this description w/ illustration:
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > http://www.texas-rose-rustlers.com/propagat.htm
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > In addition to the sphagnum-wrap air layering I was familiar with,
> > they
> > >
> > > > show
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > another method called the Tape Method. I found it very interesting
> > and
> > >
> > > > just
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > might try it.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > And here's another one that covers several types of layering.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/hil/hil-8701.html
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Kitty
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > From: "Libby Valentine" 
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > To: 
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:35 PM
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Air Layering
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > Anybody care to do the 2 minute summary for those of us who are
> > not
> > >
> > > > plant
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > propagators? (yet!)
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > Libby
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > MD zone 6
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > From: "Donna" 
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > To: 
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 10:13 PM
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [CHAT] Air Layering
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > Well Jim... now that is interesting!
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > You are saying that even after time in the ground, something
> > that
> > >
> > > > was
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > 'air layered' will never get a tap root? How in the world can
> > they
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > survive for any length of time without one?
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > I have to admit I know nothing about air layering other than a
> > 1/2
> > >
> > > > hour
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > special that included some highlights among other things. Not
> > enough
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > info to really understand the process or how it worked.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > I am majorly confused here. ... nothing new:)
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > Donna
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > Hum... must of us got here.... like some of us didn't? LOL!
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > I've done some air layering, Jesse, but not a lot. It is the
> > way
> > >
> > > > most
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > litchis, macadamia nuts, and rubber plants [Ficus elastica],
> > and,
> > >
> > > > I'm
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > sure, many other plants are usually propagated. The Royal
> > >
> > > > Horticulture
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > Society's propagation book [AHS published it as "Plant
> > >
> > > > Propagation"]
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > has very good instructions in how to air layer stuff.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > The one disadvantage to air layering [verses propagation by
> > seed
> > >
> > > > or by
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > grafting scion wood onto a seedling] is that the air layered
> > >
> > > > clones
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > will not produce tap roots. Most of the commercial litchi
> > orchards
> > >
> > > > in
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > south Florida were simply blown away by hurricane Andrew
> > because
> > >
> > > > the
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > trees had no tap roots.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > I think the general rule is that any plant that can be
> > propagated
> > >
> > > > by
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > cuttings, can also be air layered, but there are other
> > plants--the
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > afore-mentioned macadamias and rubber plants--that do not [or
> > only
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > rarely] respond as cuttings. Cuttings have the same
> > no-tap-root
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > problem
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > that air layers have but generally they are easier to
> > propagate
> > >
> > > > and
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > require a whole lot less time to do so. I usually try cuttings
> > >
> > > > first;
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > then air layering; then seedling and grafting [provided, of
> > >
> > > > course, I
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > have seedlings and access to scion wood].
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > Sometimes I do just seedlings. "Just seedlings" is always a
> > crap
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > shoot,
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > but sometimes it's fun to see what sexual reproduction has
> > cooked
> > >
> > > > up
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > for you. I mean, hey, that's how most of us got here!
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
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