Re: Buddleia ( was Russian sage - invasive?)

Try again Jim....

heavy clay here with some additives, but no where near
the 'sandy soil' thought pattern...

Donna

--- james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net> wrote:

> Interesting, Barb. No idea, then, what it could be.
> They are used in  
> many situations here--sun, partial shade, with other
> plants, by  
> themselves, under irrigation, in xeriscape
> plantings. The only common  
> threads through those site--that I can see--are
> sandy soil and  
> temperature range, unless I'm missing something. By
> sandy soil, I mean  
> excellent drainage; not sure desert sandy soil meets
> that description,  
> so if they thrive at Boyce Thompson, drainage may
> not be a factor.
> 
> On Jun 1, 2005, at 7:05 PM, Barbara Tandy wrote:
> 
> > Not so sure!  There is a huge Buddleia at the
> Boyce Thompson Arboretum  
> > near
> > Superior AZ outside Phoenix --
> > --Barb, Grass Valley CA
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Buddleia ( was Russian sage -
> invasive?)
> >
> >
> >> Buddleia do well here. So it must be dry heat
> rather than humid heat
> >> that they don't like.
> >>
> >> On Jun 1, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Johnson Cyndi D Civ
> AFFTC/ITSR wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have a couple buddleia but they don't seem to
> like me that much. I
> >>> always
> >>> figured it was too hot and dry in the summer.
> They grow, and bloom,
> >>> but you
> >>> would not call them lush. The blooms are maybe
> half as big as I've
> >>> seen in
> >>> northern California where the summers aren't so
> hot.
> >>>
> >>> Cyndi
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> [o*@hort.net] On
> >>> Behalf
> >>> Of A A HODGES
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:55 PM
> >>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Russian sage - invasive?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't think so Kitty. I have a friend that
> grew one, of course I
> >>> can't
> >>> recall the cultivar now. It was a
> silvery/lavender color. She grew it
> >>> against the hottest, driest part of the house,
> never watered it, and
> >>> it was
> >>> probably 8 feet tall when she moved. Bloomed
> constantly. She's trying
> >>> some
> >>> at her new place which has the same type of dry
> sandy soil as her old
> >>> place
> >>> so we'll see how it goes.
> >>> A
> >>>
> >>> Andrea H
> >>> Beaufort, SC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> [Original Message]
> >>>> From: Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing
> Center
> >>> <4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> >>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> Date: 6/1/2005 10:32:59 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Russian sage - invasive?
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrea, I wonder if your Buddleia problems have
> to do with heat  
> >>>> zones?
> >>>>
> >>>> Kitty
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "A A HODGES" <hodgesaa@earthlink.net>
> >>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:33 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Russian sage - invasive?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I gave up on it. My soil is too wet I guess.
> Mine never did much of
> >>>>> anything and then pooped out a couple of years
> ago. Didn't feel  
> >>>>> like
> >>>>> messing with it again. Same with Buddleia. I
> don't know HOW people
> >>>>> get those things to do well. Not one single
> plant that I've ever
> >>>>> gotten, and there have been quite a few, have
> made it through an
> >>>>> entire season. I've tried them in different
> types of soils, no
> >>>>> water, lots of water, some water, no luck. And
> at different houses,
> >>>>> so I know it's not just this
> >>>> yard.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Andrea H
> >>>>> Beaufort, SC
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> [Original Message]
> >>>>>> From: Theresa <tchessie@comcast.net>
> >>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>>> Date: 5/31/2005 9:03:39 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Russian sage - invasive?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've had one since last summer, but it has
> grown poorly (why I
> >>>>>> have no
> >>>>>> idea) and so no suckers or seedlings here.  I
> will keep an eye on  
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>> though, given your experience.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Theresa
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Johnson Cyndi D Civ AFFTC/ITSR wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anyone growing Russian sage (perovskia
> atriplicifolia)?  I
> >>>>>>> planted
> >>> some
> >>>>> last
> >>>>>>> year in my dry garden and it did really
> well. I noticed this year
> >>> that
> >>>>> there
> >>>>>>> are suckers around the base of all 3 I
> planted, and small
> >>>>>>> seedlings
> >>>>> about 3
> >>>>>>> to 4 feet away from one of them. It's
> supposed to spread to about
> >>>>>>> 3'
> >>>>> wide,
> >>>>>>> but they are almost that big already and I
> didn't see anything
> >>>>>>> that indicates it is a pest. Now I'm
> wondering what I've gotten
> >>>>>>> into. Has
> >>>>> anyone
> >>>>>>> else had experience with it?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cyndi
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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