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Re: Off to the Garden/mock orange


You mean, like, that when Lewis told Sacajawea that that he and Clark wanted to see the Pacific, she pointed to the west and solemnly said "Syringa."

On Jun 6, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center wrote:

OK - I am guessing that I have the chicken and the egg all mixed up in an
omelette.
Google has been no help, so here's my best guess. Syringa, the common name
for Philadelphus lewisii, is some sort of Native American word for this
plant. Meriweather Lewis "discovered" this tree/shrub on his travels and
asked the Indians, "What do you call this?" He sent samples and drawings
and the name Syringa back to England for taxonomic cataloging. It was
decided this was a new Philadelphus and they gave it the species name,
lewisii, to honor Lewis for finding it. When Idaho became a state and
needed a state flower/tree/shrub, they decided to honor Lewis by selecting a
plant that was named in his honor, P. lewisii, which just happens to be
commonly known as Syringa. So the designation as the state's plant has to
do with its botanical name. Syringa has nothing to do with it except that
that is probably what it was called before (and after) Lewis discovered it.

Kitty

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center"
<4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Off to the Garden/mock orange



Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhh hhhhh
hhhhh!!!
Yes, I know who Lewis and Clark were, Mr. Historyman. What I want to know
is why, when they were naming the state flower for Lewis, they called it
Syringa? Why isn't Phildelphus lewisii called Meriweather?

Kitty

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Franzman" <dfranzma@pacbell.net>

Kitty, I believe it was named after Lewis as in Lewis and Clark.
Meriweather Lewis.

David
http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "James R. Fisher" <garrideb@well.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Off to the Garden/mock orange


Kitty wrote:
That is terribly confusing to non-Idahoans, Judy.  You are saying
they
use
the botanical name for the genus of Lilacs as a common name for a
Mock
Orange?
And... if they named it after a guy named Lewis, then why isn't it
called
Lewis? (or Lewisia to make it even stranger)?  Was his name Syringa
Lewis?

Kitty
neIN, Z5

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Some Idahoans do seem to be botanically challenged (Judy not
included),
but here it is in full color, halfway down the page:
http://tinyurl.com/7lm6w
-jrf
--
Jim Fisher
Vienna, Virginia USA
38.9 N 77.2 W
USDA Zone 7
Max. 105 F [40 C], Min. 5 F [-15 C]

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Southwest Florida
27.0 N, 82.4 W
Hardiness Zone 10
Heat Zone 10
Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
Maximum 100 F [38 C]

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