Re: Spray & Tides
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- Subject: Re: [CHAT] Spray & Tides
- From: james singer i*@verizon.net
- Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 18:22:32 -0400
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Then I would guess that your soil was in a negative balance between moisture retention and plant need. That's not often my problem. Here, at the plantation, when plants wilt it is usually because the sun/heat has made greater demands on their transpiration needs than their roots can supply--watering doesn't help meet that need. One of the anti-transpiration foliar sprays might, however. Hmmm; have to think about that.
On Jun 6, 2005, at 6:07 PM, kmrsy@comcast.net wrote:
That may be, but after a good drink, each plant popped back to normal
within 10 minutes, while it was still hot out. Hydrangeas with shallow
roots and Filipendulas are notorious for their moisture demands and
often need more water while their companions don't. The Filipendulas
that were prostrate from thirst are planted on a very dry spot. Probably
should move them.
--
Kitty
neIN, Zone5
-------------- Original message --------------
Wilt is not always a sign of thirst. Sometimes it is simply heat
fatigue. Once the sun goes down and/or the temps drop, they are back to
looking normal.
On Jun 6, 2005, at 11:43 AM, Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing
Center wrote:
Re > Kitty, What were you doing on the roof?
Andrea, I was cleaning maple samaras out of the gutters. Mick helped;
he
can jump there from the arbor. I used a ladder.
I have 2 Cordylines now. One is C. bauerii, a spikey, deep purple
plant.
The other is a screamer from Home Depot. Wide deep purple leaves
splashed
with hot pink. 3 big plants in a 3gal pot, only $6.99, labeled only
Cordyline species. I haven't tried Nasturtiums in years, but these are
looking to be sturdy, plants.
I have 2 kinds of Filipendula. One is the regular Queen of the
Prairie, I
think F. venusta. Then I have 2 F. kahome, a dwarf variety less than
a foot
tall. All are planted in full sun. They do wilt and crisp if they
don't get
the water they want, so you are definitely providing the necessities.
Kitty
----- Original Message -----
From: "A A HODGES"
To:
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Spray & Tides
Kitty, What were you doing on the roof?
The bed sounds fantastic, not like a mish-mash, or either a very
pretty
mish-mash. ALL of my beds are like that. I love Cordyline. I have two
greenones that have turned into small shrubs, and bought a purple/red one from Plant Delights last summer. I thought it had croaked over the winter but it's coming back nicely. Wish I could grow Nasturtiums like you can. I love those, but they poopoutby now for us. Question, where do you have your Filipendula? I bought
one
this year from Spring Hill, just to try and it was cheap, since I'm
concerned it might not like it here. It's in the sun, but in a very
soggy
bed. So far so good. It even bloomed! It's planted between two
Pretoria
Canna lilies and looks really good. I've always wanted one but was
afraid
it's too hot here or too something. It's one of those zones 3-8 plants
thatare sometimes iffy here in the summer. Guess we'll see!
Donna, sounds like you had a rather productive day to me. Just dealing
withmy mom wears me out! YAY on the new furniture. Sounds like a great thing.Ilove getting new stuff like that. Always make everything look between,
thenof course if you're like me you have to rearrange the plants to suit the new stuff. :-D A Andrea H Beaufort, SC[Original Message] From: Kitty To: Date: 6/5/2005 9:53:04 PM Subject: Re: [CHAT] Spray & Tides Hot was right, Andrea. I started at 7am with the roof, then coffee,cerealabout 8am. Then I started working on my tenders bed, finished pickingoutsamaras and then planted some Cordylines, Acalyphas, Osteospermum,Plumbago,Muhlenbergia, and Penisetum. It eventually got too hot - this bed is insunand we hit 90 degrees, so I stopped around 1:30, had lunch, ran some
errands. I noticed that some plants like Filipendula, Oakleaf
Hydrangea,and others were wilting, so emergency watered. About 4;30 I figured I
couldhandle some heat and went back to work on the tenders bed. Then therainrolled in. Got a nice soaker that lasted a couple of hours. I didn'tgetthe bed mulched, but it still needs some plants that aren't quite readyyet.I started them late. I have 18 Nasturtium 'Empress of India' - 2.5 in scarlet blooms against deep purplish green foliage. I'm hoping they'll spread out as sort of a ground cover among the other plants. I alsohaveseveral 4 foot burgundy sunflowers and some 4:00s. I'm sure it soundslikea mish mash, but I like it. The connecting color is purple/red from the fountain grass to the Cordylines to the Nasturtium leaves. WithAcalyphasand Osteos for contrast. Kitty neIN, Z5 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A A HODGES" To: Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [CHAT] Spray & TidesYep Kitty, back to the garden. Took the dogs to the beach thismorning,gave them a bath when we got back, then out to mow. Had to come in togetsome water. It is HOT HOT HOT out there. Thought I was going to pass
outfor a minute. Guess I'll be mowing in increments. I've GOT to get it
alldone though before we get more rain. It's hard to mow now it's so tallandthe mower is set up high as well. So, guess I'll mow and work on my
tan.YES Donna, I have on my 30 sun block. 45 in case I start to burn. ;-) A Andrea H Beaufort, SC[Original Message] From: Kitty To: Date: 6/5/2005 10:44:01 AM Subject: Re: [CHAT] Spray & TidesJust got back from the beach with two bags of shells for the walk.
I just got off the roof with 4 bags of maple samaras from thegutters.I guess it's back to the garden today.We are stardust, we are golden And we got to get ourselves back to the gaaaaardennnnnnnnnnnnn. Kitty neIN, Z5 ----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer" To: Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [CHAT] Spray & TidesJust got back from the beach with two bags of shells for the walk.
Alook at the Gulf satellite seems to show that the storm stream out
ofthe western Caribbean has shifted to the south and is now headedforthe Keys and Miami, so maybe it'll go out to sea rather than upthecoast. And local radar shows no rain for 100 miles headed ourway...soI guess it's back to the garden today. Maybe I'll get the figtreesplanted after all. On Jun 5, 2005, at 8:08 AM, A A HODGES wrote:Jim, did you make it to the beach? I did, for the first timethisyear.Spent a couple hours lounging and working on my tan. It was thefirstday we had seen much sun in over a week. Now this morning it'scompletelycloudy again. My yard looks like a jungle. DID get the tomato seeds! THANK YOU! I'll plant them today.Hopefullythey won't drown before they can sprout...... A Andrea H Beaufort, SC[Original Message] From: james singer To: Garden Chat Date: 6/4/2005 3:17:10 PM Subject: [CHAT] Spray & Tides Mixed up a batch of volck horticultural oil spray and sprayedthemedjool date palms. They have scale. As soon as I finishedspraying,however, it started to rain again. Oh well... spray them againiftherain ever stops. In the last 5 days we have had more rain thanwenormally get during the whole month of June. And it's stillcoming.It's kind of scary [not to mention tedious] to look at the Gulf
ofMexico satellite--big storms streaming out of the westernCaribbean,across the Caymans and Cuba, and aiming right at us. Also thinking about going to the beach in the morning, weather permitting. We wanted to be sure we went as at close to lowtideaswecould, so I had to find a site that posted tide time tables.----------------------------------------------------------------- --found this University of South Carolina site that is really cool--http://tinyurl.com/asodd Island Jim Southwest Florida 27.0 N, 82.4 W Hardiness Zone 10 Heat Zone 10 Minimum 30 F [-1 C] Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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