Re: Spray & Tides

You are right, definitely not balanced. But I am so behind, I don't yet
have the irrigation ready for them. And sometimes it's hard to match
things up in a mixed bed. Also, we went from a warm early April to a
cold May and then it just popped up to 90 degrees yesterday. Lots of
rain promises, but no follow through for quite awhile until yesterday. I
got pretty wilted myself.


Anti-transpirants/dessicants have a wax in them don't they? It is
helpful for a plant in stress from transplanting or from winter cold
(when not actively growing), but I wonder if persistent use would be a
problem for them.


--
Kitty 
neIN, Zone5

-------------- Original message -------------- 

> Then I would guess that your soil was in a negative balance between 
> moisture retention and plant need. That's not often my problem. Here, 
> at the plantation, when plants wilt it is usually because the sun/heat 
> has made greater demands on their transpiration needs than their roots 
> can supply--watering doesn't help meet that need. One of the 
> anti-transpiration foliar sprays might, however. Hmmm; have to think 
> about that. 
> 
> On Jun 6, 2005, at 6:07 PM, kmrsy@comcast.net wrote: 
> 
> > That may be, but after a good drink, each plant popped back to normal 
> > within 10 minutes, while it was still hot out. Hydrangeas with shallow 
> > roots and Filipendulas are notorious for their moisture demands and 
> > often need more water while their companions don't. The Filipendulas 
> > that were prostrate from thirst are planted on a very dry spot. 
> > Probably 
> > should move them. 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Kitty 
> > neIN, Zone5 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > 
> >> Wilt is not always a sign of thirst. Sometimes it is simply heat 
> >> fatigue. Once the sun goes down and/or the temps drop, they are back 
> >> to 
> >> looking normal. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Jun 6, 2005, at 11:43 AM, Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing 
> >> Center wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> Re > Kitty, What were you doing on the roof? 
> >>> Andrea, I was cleaning maple samaras out of the gutters. Mick helped; 
> >>> he 
> >>> can jump there from the arbor. I used a ladder. 
> >>> 
> >>> I have 2 Cordylines now. One is C. bauerii, a spikey, deep purple 
> >>> plant. 
> >>> The other is a screamer from Home Depot. Wide deep purple leaves 
> >>> splashed 
> >>> with hot pink. 3 big plants in a 3gal pot, only $6.99, labeled only 
> >>> Cordyline species. I haven't tried Nasturtiums in years, but these 
> >>> are 
> >>> looking to be sturdy, plants. 
> >>> 
> >>> I have 2 kinds of Filipendula. One is the regular Queen of the 
> >>> Prairie, I 
> >>> think F. venusta. Then I have 2 F. kahome, a dwarf variety less than 
> >>> a foot 
> >>> tall. All are planted in full sun. They do wilt and crisp if they 
> >>> don't get 
> >>> the water they want, so you are definitely providing the necessities. 
> >>> 
> >>> Kitty 
> >>> 
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "A A HODGES" 
> >>> To: 
> >>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:32 AM 
> >>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Spray & Tides 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> Kitty, What were you doing on the roof? 
> >>>> 
> >>>> The bed sounds fantastic, not like a mish-mash, or either a very 
> >>>> pretty 
> >>>> mish-mash. ALL of my beds are like that. I love Cordyline. I have 
> >>>> two 
> >>> green 
> >>>> ones that have turned into small shrubs, and bought a purple/red one 
> >>>> from 
> >>>> Plant Delights last summer. I thought it had croaked over the winter 
> >>>> but 
> >>>> it's coming back nicely. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Wish I could grow Nasturtiums like you can. I love those, but they 
> >>>> poop 
> >>> out 
> >>>> by now for us. Question, where do you have your Filipendula? I 
> >>>> bought 
> >>>> one 
> >>>> this year from Spring Hill, just to try and it was cheap, since I'm 
> >>>> concerned it might not like it here. It's in the sun, but in a very 
> >>>> soggy 
> >>>> bed. So far so good. It even bloomed! It's planted between two 
> >>>> Pretoria 
> >>>> Canna lilies and looks really good. I've always wanted one but was 
> >>>> afraid 
> >>>> it's too hot here or too something. It's one of those zones 3-8 
> >>>> plants 
> >>> that 
> >>>> are sometimes iffy here in the summer. Guess we'll see! 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Donna, sounds like you had a rather productive day to me. Just 
> >>>> dealing 
> >>> with 
> >>>> my mom wears me out! YAY on the new furniture. Sounds like a great 
> >>>> thing. 
> >>> I 
> >>>> love getting new stuff like that. Always make everything look 
> >>>> between, 
> >>> then 
> >>>> of course if you're like me you have to rearrange the plants to suit 
> >>>> the 
> >>>> new stuff. :-D 
> >>>> A 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Andrea H 
> >>>> Beaufort, SC 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> [Original Message] 
> >>>>> From: Kitty 
> >>>>> To: 
> >>>>> Date: 6/5/2005 9:53:04 PM 
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Spray & Tides 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hot was right, Andrea. I started at 7am with the roof, then coffee, 
> >>>> cereal 
> >>>>> about 8am. Then I started working on my tenders bed, finished 
> >>>>> picking 
> >>> out 
> >>>>> samaras and then planted some Cordylines, Acalyphas, Osteospermum, 
> >>>> Plumbago, 
> >>>>> Muhlenbergia, and Penisetum. It eventually got too hot - this bed 
> >>>>> is in 
> >>>> sun 
> >>>>> and we hit 90 degrees, so I stopped around 1:30, had lunch, ran 
> >>>>> some 
> >>>>> errands. I noticed that some plants like Filipendula, Oakleaf 
> >>> Hydrangea, 
> >>>>> and others were wilting, so emergency watered. About 4;30 I 
> >>>>> figured I 
> >>>> could 
> >>>>> handle some heat and went back to work on the tenders bed. Then the 
> >>> rain 
> >>>>> rolled in. Got a nice soaker that lasted a couple of hours. I 
> >>>>> didn't 
> >>> get 
> >>>>> the bed mulched, but it still needs some plants that aren't quite 
> >>>>> ready 
> >>>> yet. 
> >>>>> I started them late. I have 18 Nasturtium 'Empress of India' - 2.5 
> >>>>> in 
> >>>>> scarlet blooms against deep purplish green foliage. I'm hoping 
> >>>>> they'll 
> >>>>> spread out as sort of a ground cover among the other plants. I also 
> >>> have 
> >>>>> several 4 foot burgundy sunflowers and some 4:00s. I'm sure it 
> >>>>> sounds 
> >>>> like 
> >>>>> a mish mash, but I like it. The connecting color is purple/red from 
> >>>>> the 
> >>>>> fountain grass to the Cordylines to the Nasturtium leaves. With 
> >>> Acalyphas 
> >>>>> and Osteos for contrast. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Kitty 
> >>>>> neIN, Z5 
> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>> From: "A A HODGES" 
> >>>>> To: 
> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:58 PM 
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Spray & Tides 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Yep Kitty, back to the garden. Took the dogs to the beach this 
> >>> morning, 
> >>>>>> gave them a bath when we got back, then out to mow. Had to come in 
> >>>>>> to 
> >>>> get 
> >>>>>> some water. It is HOT HOT HOT out there. Thought I was going to 
> >>>>>> pass 
> >>> out 
> >>>>>> for a minute. Guess I'll be mowing in increments. I've GOT to get 
> >>>>>> it 
> >>> all 
> >>>>>> done though before we get more rain. It's hard to mow now it's so 
> >>>>>> tall 
> >>>> and 
> >>>>>> the mower is set up high as well. So, guess I'll mow and work on 
> >>>>>> my 
> >>> tan. 
> >>>>>> YES Donna, I have on my 30 sun block. 45 in case I start to burn. 
> >>>>>> ;-) 
> >>>>>> A 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Andrea H 
> >>>>>> Beaufort, SC 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> [Original Message] 
> >>>>>>> From: Kitty 
> >>>>>>> To: 
> >>>>>>> Date: 6/5/2005 10:44:01 AM 
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Spray & Tides 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Just got back from the beach with two bags of shells for the 
> >>>>>>>> walk. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I just got off the roof with 4 bags of maple samaras from the 
> >>> gutters. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I guess it's back to the garden today. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> We are stardust, we are golden 
> >>>>>>> And we got to get ourselves back to the gaaaaardennnnnnnnnnnnn. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Kitty 
> >>>>>>> neIN, Z5 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>>>> From: "james singer" 
> >>>>>>> To: 
> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 7:32 AM 
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Spray & Tides 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Just got back from the beach with two bags of shells for the 
> >>>>>>>> walk. 
> >>> A 
> >>>>>>>> look at the Gulf satellite seems to show that the storm stream 
> >>>>>>>> out 
> >>>> of 
> >>>>>>>> the western Caribbean has shifted to the south and is now headed 
> >>> for 
> >>>>>>>> the Keys and Miami, so maybe it'll go out to sea rather than up 
> >>> the 
> >>>>>>>> coast. And local radar shows no rain for 100 miles headed our 
> >>> way... 
> >>>>> so 
> >>>>>>>> I guess it's back to the garden today. Maybe I'll get the fig 
> >>> trees 
> >>>>>>>> planted after all. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2005, at 8:08 AM, A A HODGES wrote: 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Jim, did you make it to the beach? I did, for the first time 
> >>> this 
> >>>>>> year. 
> >>>>>>>>> Spent a couple hours lounging and working on my tan. It was the 
> >>>>> first 
> >>>>>>>>> day 
> >>>>>>>>> we had seen much sun in over a week. Now this morning it's 
> >>>>> completely 
> >>>>>>>>> cloudy again. My yard looks like a jungle. 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> DID get the tomato seeds! THANK YOU! I'll plant them today. 
> >>>>> Hopefully 
> >>>>>>>>> they 
> >>>>>>>>> won't drown before they can sprout...... 
> >>>>>>>>> A 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Andrea H 
> >>>>>>>>> Beaufort, SC 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> [Original Message] 
> >>>>>>>>>> From: james singer 
> >>>>>>>>>> To: Garden Chat 
> >>>>>>>>>> Date: 6/4/2005 3:17:10 PM 
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [CHAT] Spray & Tides 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Mixed up a batch of volck horticultural oil spray and sprayed 
> >>> the 
> >>>>>>>>>> medjool date palms. They have scale. As soon as I finished 
> >>>>> spraying, 
> >>>>>>>>>> however, it started to rain again. Oh well... spray them again 
> >>> if 
> >>>>> the 
> >>>>>>>>>> rain ever stops. In the last 5 days we have had more rain than 
> >>> we 
> >>>>>>>>>> normally get during the whole month of June. And it's still 
> >>>> coming. 
> >>>>>>>>>> It's kind of scary [not to mention tedious] to look at the 
> >>>>>>>>>> Gulf 
> >>>> of 
> >>>>>>>>>> Mexico satellite--big storms streaming out of the western 
> >>>>> Caribbean, 
> >>>>>>>>>> across the Caymans and Cuba, and aiming right at us. 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Also thinking about going to the beach in the morning, weather 
> >>>>>>>>>> permitting. We wanted to be sure we went as at close to low 
> >>> tide 
> >>>> as 
> >>>>>> we 
> >>>>>>>>>> could, so I had to find a site that posted tide time tables. 
> >>>> Google 
> >>>>>>>>>> found this University of South Carolina site that is really 
> >>>>>>>>>> cool--http://tinyurl.com/asodd 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Island Jim 
> >>>>>>>>>> Southwest Florida 
> >>>>>>>>>> 27.0 N, 82.4 W 
> >>>>>>>>>> Hardiness Zone 10 
> >>>>>>>>>> Heat Zone 10 
> >>>>>>>>>> Minimum 30 F [-1 C] 
> >>>>>>>>>> Maximum 100 F [38 C] 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
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