Re: After 2,000 Years, a Seed From Ancient Judea Sprouts

Thanks, Jim.  Interesting.
Kitty
neIN, Z5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] After 2,000 Years, a Seed From Ancient Judea Sprouts


> This would be my guess--it is probably a Phoenix species, maybe even
> dactylifera [doubt the species has changed much in a couple of thousand
> years]. Phoenixes are very promiscuous. All the species cross very
> easily, so if it's a female any Phoenix male could pollinate it. It's
> doubtful the pollinator would have any influence on the quality of the
> fruit--only on the genetic make up of the seed. One would want to use a
> P. dactylifera, however, so any offspring of that cross would be close
> to resembling the female parent as possible.
>
> I would also guess that the fruit will be something of a
> disappointment. Two thousand years of selecting cultivars, first in
> what is now Libya [where some trees survived the Crusades] and then the
> US has most likely resulted in better fruit.
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2005, at 12:34 PM, Kitty wrote:
>
> > Re > "O.K, I have a date plant," Dr. Solowey said. "If it lives, it
> > will be
> > years before we eat any dates. And that's if it's female. There's a
> > 50-50
> > chance. And if it's a male, it will just be a curiosity."
> >
> > OK, Jim, let's say it is female.  It will need a male for pollination.
> > Sounds like the other 2 seeds didn't germ.  So...if it is pollinated
> > by a
> > newer variety of date, would that alter the outcome?  I'm not very
> > good at
> > understanding this.
> >
> > Kitty
> > neIN, Z5
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 9:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] After 2,000 Years, a Seed From Ancient Judea
> > Sprouts
> >
> >
> >> Ooops, guess it lost the link. Try this:
> >>
> >> http://hort.net/+4
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 12, 2005, at 10:45 AM, james singer wrote:
> >>
> >>> Don't know how many of you peruse the Times, but this is a very
> >>> interesting article in this morning's paper
> >>>
> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a
> >>> name
> >>> of spacer.gif]
> >>>>  INTERNATIONAL / MIDDLE EAST   | June 12, 2005
> >>>>  After 2,000 Years, a Seed From Ancient Judea Sprouts
> >>>> By STEVEN ERLANGER
> >>>> Israeli doctors and scientists have succeeded in germinating a date
> >>>> seed nearly 2,000 years old.
> >>>>
> >>> Island Jim
> >>> Southwest Florida
> >>> 27.0 N, 82.4 W
> >>> Hardiness Zone 10
> >>> Heat Zone 10
> >>> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> >>> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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> >> Island Jim
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> Island Jim
> Southwest Florida
> 27.0 N, 82.4 W
> Hardiness Zone 10
> Heat Zone 10
> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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