Re: After 2,000 Years, a Seed From Ancient Judea Sprouts

2000 years old??  That's astounding indeed!

On 6/12/05, Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
> Thanks, Jim.  Interesting.
> Kitty
> neIN, Z5
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] After 2,000 Years, a Seed From Ancient Judea Sprouts
> 
> 
> > This would be my guess--it is probably a Phoenix species, maybe even
> > dactylifera [doubt the species has changed much in a couple of thousand
> > years]. Phoenixes are very promiscuous. All the species cross very
> > easily, so if it's a female any Phoenix male could pollinate it. It's
> > doubtful the pollinator would have any influence on the quality of the
> > fruit--only on the genetic make up of the seed. One would want to use a
> > P. dactylifera, however, so any offspring of that cross would be close
> > to resembling the female parent as possible.
> >
> > I would also guess that the fruit will be something of a
> > disappointment. Two thousand years of selecting cultivars, first in
> > what is now Libya [where some trees survived the Crusades] and then the
> > US has most likely resulted in better fruit.
> >
> >
> > On Jun 12, 2005, at 12:34 PM, Kitty wrote:
> >
> > > Re > "O.K, I have a date plant," Dr. Solowey said. "If it lives, it
> > > will be
> > > years before we eat any dates. And that's if it's female. There's a
> > > 50-50
> > > chance. And if it's a male, it will just be a curiosity."
> > >
> > > OK, Jim, let's say it is female.  It will need a male for pollination.
> > > Sounds like the other 2 seeds didn't germ.  So...if it is pollinated
> > > by a
> > > newer variety of date, would that alter the outcome?  I'm not very
> > > good at
> > > understanding this.
> > >
> > > Kitty
> > > neIN, Z5
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 9:51 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] After 2,000 Years, a Seed From Ancient Judea
> > > Sprouts
> > >
> > >
> > >> Ooops, guess it lost the link. Try this:
> > >>
> > >> http://hort.net/+4
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Jun 12, 2005, at 10:45 AM, james singer wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Don't know how many of you peruse the Times, but this is a very
> > >>> interesting article in this morning's paper
> > >>>
> > >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a
> > >>> name
> > >>> of spacer.gif]
> > >>>>  INTERNATIONAL / MIDDLE EAST   | June 12, 2005
> > >>>>  After 2,000 Years, a Seed From Ancient Judea Sprouts
> > >>>> By STEVEN ERLANGER
> > >>>> Israeli doctors and scientists have succeeded in germinating a date
> > >>>> seed nearly 2,000 years old.
> > >>>>
> > >>> Island Jim
> > >>> Southwest Florida
> > >>> 27.0 N, 82.4 W
> > >>> Hardiness Zone 10
> > >>> Heat Zone 10
> > >>> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> > >>> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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> > Island Jim
> > Southwest Florida
> > 27.0 N, 82.4 W
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> > Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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