Re: today....Judy---

Don't have to what?  Buckle up?  Are you joking or is there really such a thing and why?  Just curious?


Melody 
Hills, IA  zone 5

Work for the Lord:  the pay isn't much but the retirement is out of this world!

 --- On Wed 06/15, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:
From: Kitty [mailto: kmrsy@comcast.net]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:32:42 -0500
Subject: Re: [CHAT] today....Judy---

For an extra $9 I got a plate that says I don't have
to.<br><br>Kitty<br>neIN, Z5<br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From:
"Theresa" <tchessie@comcast.net><br>To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:40 PM<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT]
today....Judy---<br><br><br>> We now have signs and handouts throughout
the hospital, clinics and even<br>> all the schools regarding coughing
into your elbow crook instead of your<br>> hands. The kids are learning
it fast- I bet it will become the norm in<br>> the future, just like
everyone automatically puts on a seatbelt now.<br>><br>>
Theresa<br>><br>> Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center
wrote:<br>><br>> >Melody, as a nurse I am sure you know better about
such things than I do,<br>> >but I get pretty disgusted with people who
don't cover their mouths when<br>> >they cough. You are right - the
germs go right to their hands and then<br>they<br>> >spread the germs by
touching things. However, I can behave

defensively<br>> >against such actions, but I cannot control what people
spew into the air.<br>> >Plus, it's just plain disgusting. And the
elbow? yeah, try it. Looks<br>like<br>> >you're sniffing your armpit to
see if your deodorant is working. uh-uh.<br>> ><br>> >Kitty<br>> >-----
Original Message ----- <br>> >From: "Melody " <mhobertm@excite.com><br>>
>To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>> >Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:12
AM<br>> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] today....Judy---<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>>
><br>> >>This is also the reason I have such a problem with the
proliferation of<br>> >>antibacterial soaps and/or products with
antibacterial agents embedded<br>> >>in them...by constant use of these
antibacterial products we are<br>> >>actually weakening our immune
systems, throwing out the good bacteria<br>> >>that protect us while not
necessarily killing off the really bad<br>> >>bacteria that harm us.
Just plain old soap and water for handwashing<br>> >>along with vigorous

mechanical scrubbing when you wash is enough for<br>> >>most folks with
healthy immune systems. Also, we really, really need to<br>> >>stop
using our hands to cover our mouths and noses when we sneeze or<br>>
>>cough...coughing/sneezing into the crook of your elbow or turning
your<br>> >>head away from folks is much preferable...this way the
bacteria do not<br>> >>end up on your hands where they are then passed
on to everything and<br>> >>everyone you touch.<br>> >><br>> >><br>>
>><br>> >>Melody<br>> >>Hills, IA zone 5<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >>
--- On Sun 06/12, Judy Browning < judybrowning@lewiston.com >
wrote:<br>> >>From: Judy Browning [mailto:
judybrowning@lewiston.com]<br>> >>To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> >>Date:
Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:12:39 -0000<br>> >>Subject: Re: [CHAT]
today....Judy---<br>> >><br>> >>Both actually. You can cause resistance
in your own population, then<br>> >>pass it<br>along to someone else
through casual contact. My hand to<br>> >>money, a

doorknob,<br>or shopping cart to your hand for instance. An<br>>
>>elderly lady I knew claimed<br>she and her husband never got
colds.<br>> >>Their secret: Whenever returning home,<br>they immediately
washed their<br>> >>hands. Didn't take off their coats or
touch<br>anything inside until<br>> >>they washed their hands. If they
had been shopping,<br>they washed again<br>> >>after putting their
purchases away.<br>Our bodies are protected by skin<br>> >>that is very
resistant to bacteria. Mucus<br>membranes in the eyes mouth<br>> >>&
other orifices is not. Most infection enter<br>the body through a<br>>
>>mucus membrane. Puncture wounds are dangerous because<br>they
carry<br>> >>foreign material through the skin. Immune system tends
to<br>incapsulate<br>> >>stuff like that, making a warm dark moist area
for bacteria to<br>grow<br>> >>ie abcess.<br>Some of the more toxic
antibiotics can kill all of your<br>> >>gut's<br>> >><br>>
>>flora,<br>beneficial & not. When you get

diarrhea from an antibiotic,<br>> >>that's the<br>cause. The good bugs
are gone too. Taking a little<br>> >>buttermilk or yogurt a<br>couple of
hours after a dose can repopulate<br>> >>with a benefical
lactobacillus.<br>I doubt you were totally sterile<br>> >>inside. But
there was probably very little<br>left.<br>----- Original<br>> >>Message
-----<br>From: "Donna" <gossiper@sbcglobal.net><br>To:<br>>
>><gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:44
AM<br>Subject:<br>> >>RE: [CHAT] today....Judy---<br><br><br>> So
Judy-<br>><br>> You are<br>> >>saying it is within a person, rather than
a NEW bacteria we<br>> >>have<br>to<br>> worry about?<br>><br>> I know a
few years ago when my<br>> >>system was whacked and I was always
ill,<br>they<br>> gave me an orange<br>> >>powder to mix with water. The
nastiest stuff I ever<br>> tasted. I<br>> >>didn't believe it at the
time, but they claimed this was<br>> >>going<br>to<br>> remove all
bacteria and fungus from my

system,<br>> >>unfortunately good and bad<br>> types. I did get<br>>
>><br>> >>better a week later, but still am not buying it did
that.<br>><br>><br>> >>Donna<br>><br>><br>> > Chris, this is a soapbox
invitation I can't<br>> >>resist. Get ready<br>> > Resistant bacteria
are getting more problematic<br>> >>each year. Part of the<br>> >
problem is the widespread use of<br>> >>antibiotics! Especially with
folks who<br>> > "save" a few pills from<br>> >>their prescription &
self medicate the next<br>time.<br>> > 1st course<br>> >>of medication
leaves a few of the most resistant germs, which<br>> ><br>> >>then are
the ones to multiply. When they next get a cold & take the<br>>
>>last<br>> > few, they expose more bacteria to the antibiotic
without<br>> >>killing them<br>and<br>> > build even more resistance in
the "normal"<br>> >>bacteria we all host.<br>> > I won't get started on
physicians who<br>> >>prescribe antibiotics for viral<br>> > infections,
talk about<br>>

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