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Re: today....Judy---

  • To: gardenchat@hort.net
  • Subject: Re: [CHAT] today....Judy---
  • From: "Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center" 4042N15@nationalhearing.com
  • Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:13:57 -0600
  • References: <4931616.1118916999520.JavaMail.root@sniper10>

Well, a kleenex of any sort beats spewing phlegm and goodness knows what
else on any surface.  And, please, don't get me started on public toilets!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Melody " <mhobertm@excite.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] today....Judy---

> Kitty: Most of these common bacteria and viruses need a human host to
> proliferate...no human host, no life. Therefore, turning your head to
> sneeze or cough actually reduces the chances that you will spread the
> contaminant to another person. Although, I must say that one of my
> favorite new products on the market are viricidal and bactericidal
> kleenex...within 15 minutes of sneezing or coughing into one of these
> tissues, the virus and bacteria have been killed. Now that is a smart
> use of technology that doesn't involve weakening our own human immunity
> to the bad bugs out there.
> Melody
> Hills, IA  zone 5
> Work for the Lord:  the pay isn't much but the retirement is out of this
>  --- On Wed 06/15, Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center <
4042N15@nationalhearing.com > wrote:
> From: Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center [mailto:
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:15:58 -0600
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] today....Judy---
> Melody, as a nurse I am sure you know better about such things than I
> do,<br>but I get pretty disgusted with people who don't cover their
> mouths when<br>they cough. You are right - the germs go right to their
> hands and then they<br>spread the germs by touching things. However, I
> can behave defensively<br>against such actions, but I cannot control
> what people spew into the air.<br>Plus, it's just plain disgusting. And
> the elbow? yeah, try it. Looks like<br>you're sniffing your armpit to
> see if your deodorant is working. uh-uh.<br><br>Kitty<br>----- Original
> Message ----- <br>From: "Melody " <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:
> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:12
> AM<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] today....Judy---<br><br><br>> This is also the
> reason I have such a problem with the proliferation of<br>>
> antibacterial soaps and/or products with antibacterial agents
> embedded<br>> in them...by constant use of these antibacterial products
> we are<br>> actually weakening
> our immune systems, throwing out the good bacteria<br>> that protect us
> while not necessarily killing off the really bad<br>> bacteria that harm
> us. Just plain old soap and water for handwashing<br>> along with
> vigorous mechanical scrubbing when you wash is enough for<br>> most
> folks with healthy immune systems. Also, we really, really need to<br>>
> stop using our hands to cover our mouths and noses when we sneeze
> or<br>> cough...coughing/sneezing into the crook of your elbow or
> turning your<br>> head away from folks is much preferable...this way the
> bacteria do not<br>> end up on your hands where they are then passed on
> to everything and<br>> everyone you touch.<br>><br>><br>><br>>
> Melody<br>> Hills, IA zone 5<br>><br>><br>><br>> --- On Sun 06/12, Judy
> Browning < judybrowning@lewiston.com > wrote:<br>> From: Judy Browning
> [mailto: judybrowning@lewiston.com]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>>
> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:12:39 -0000<br>> Subject: Re: [CHAT]
> today....Judy---<br>><br>> Both actually. You can cause resistance in
> your own population, then<br>> pass it<br>along to someone else through
> casual contact. My hand to<br>> money, a doorknob,<br>or shopping cart
> to your hand for instance. An<br>> elderly lady I knew claimed<br>she
> and her husband never got colds.<br>> Their secret: Whenever returning
> home,<br>they immediately washed their<br>> hands. Didn't take off their
> coats or touch<br>anything inside until<br>> they washed their hands. If
> they had been shopping,<br>they washed again<br>> after putting their
> purchases away.<br>Our bodies are protected by skin<br>> that is very
> resistant to bacteria. Mucus<br>membranes in the eyes mouth<br>> & other
> orifices is not. Most infection enter<br>the body through a<br>> mucus
> membrane. Puncture wounds are dangerous because<br>they carry<br>>
> foreign material through the skin. Immune system tends
> to<br>incapsulate<br>> stuff like that, making a warm dark moist area
> for bacteria
> to<br>grow<br>> ie abcess.<br>Some of the more toxic antibiotics can
> kill all of your<br>> gut's<br>><br>> flora,<br>beneficial & not. When
> you get diarrhea from an antibiotic,<br>> that's the<br>cause. The good
> bugs are gone too. Taking a little<br>> buttermilk or yogurt a<br>couple
> of hours after a dose can repopulate<br>> with a benefical
> lactobacillus.<br>I doubt you were totally sterile<br>> inside. But
> there was probably very little<br>left.<br>----- Original<br>> Message
> -----<br>From: "Donna" <gossiper@sbcglobal.net><br>To:<br>>
> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:44
> AM<br>Subject:<br>> RE: [CHAT] today....Judy---<br><br><br>> So
> Judy-<br>><br>> You are<br>> saying it is within a person, rather than a
> NEW bacteria we<br>> have<br>to<br>> worry about?<br>><br>> I know a few
> years ago when my<br>> system was whacked and I was always
> ill,<br>they<br>> gave me an orange<br>> powder to mix with water. The
> nastiest stuff I ever<br>> tasted. I<br>> didn't
> believe it at the time, but they claimed this was<br>> going<br>to<br>>
> remove all bacteria and fungus from my system,<br>> unfortunately good
> and bad<br>> types. I did get<br>><br>> better a week later, but still
> am not buying it did that.<br>><br>><br>> Donna<br>><br>><br>> > Chris,
> this is a soapbox invitation I can't<br>> resist. Get ready<br>> >
> Resistant bacteria are getting more problematic<br>> each year. Part of
> the<br>> > problem is the widespread use of<br>> antibiotics! Especially
> with folks who<br>> > "save" a few pills from<br>> their prescription &
> self medicate the next<br>time.<br>> > 1st course<br>> of medication
> leaves a few of the most resistant germs, which<br>> ><br>> then are the
> ones to multiply. When they next get a cold & take the<br>> last<br>> >
> few, they expose more bacteria to the antibiotic without<br>> killing
> them<br>and<br>> > build even more resistance in the "normal"<br>>
> bacteria we all host.<br>> > I won't get started on physicians
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