Re: critters > fence ideas

I don't think I can afford a James Bond type fence. As I was watering tonight and the kids came streaming through several times, I thought about spraying them, but I'm sure it wouldn't phase them. And frankly, they're not worth the cost of the water. I don't have anything against kids, I'd just like a little respect and privacy.
The grass strip you refer to is often called a hell strip (hell meaning half - it bisects the cement sidewalk from the street) Here, you own it, just like easements, but the city has laws that restrict what you can do to it (you can't cut down any trees growing in it). And since you own the hellstrip you are responsible for its upkeep. Another thing we have here is an ordinance that requires people to clean up after their dogs. Doesn't always happen.
If I could have afforded to live in the country I'd have moved years ago. What is cute to parents and grandparents can become pretty annoying to someone who'd just like a few minutes of peace and quite once in awhile. 6 year old Juliana's 20th stanza of annie's 'Tomorrow' screamed at the top of her lungs so loud that I can't hear the tv just eventually gets to me so I have to close the windows.
My parents would never have allowed me to be disrespectful to our neighbors; things just aren't that way anymore. Thanks for letting me vent. 

Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Bell" <silverhawk@flash.net> 
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT]critters > fence ideas



Wow Kitty...that's one of the MANY reasons we live out in the country.
You don't have to deal with neighbors like that. And kids will be kids,
but parents need to teach them manners and boundaries as well. When I
lived in K.C. I had a sidewalk in front of my house and then a green
area of grass beyond that..until it hit the curb to the street. The
sidewalk and that green strip supposedly was city property, but it was
still your yard. People would walk their dogs, let them poop there, and
continue walking. They never scooped up their animal's mess. Some of
these dogs were BIG - a great dane, standard poodle, lab and airedale
terrier. I had to mow that area and keep it nice and it just made me so
MAD when they did that. I put a little sign out there that said "please
scoop if your dog poops", they just knocked it down. Very frustrating.


You need a James Bond type fence. One that will lower to the ground for
the utility company, and one that will shoot water at the neighbors kids
when they walk by!!!


Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
 So sorry about the babies Jesse.
as for critters....
My property had a chain link fence across the back west end that was barely 
noticeable until several yrs ago the new neighbor limbed up all the huge
pines I enjoyed as a 'borrowed' backdrop and installed a privacy fence. The 
2 fences, about 7ft apart due to easement allowance looked dumb so I took
mine down. Kids from the east started cutting through my garden to take the 
easement behind the houses as a shortcut to the school bus stop. So I
refenced, leaving a gap below for the cats to come and go.

Now the kids are coming through from the north and south traveling through
the back of my yard as a shortcut. they drop trash, have dug holes, buried
something, have killed the groundcover, and congregate back there. I don't
want them there; I want my privacy. I fenced off both ends and they tore it down and brought their moms over, one of which who puffed away profusely on 
her cigarette, stinking up my yard while yelling at me that the "path"
belongs to the city. the other mom yelled at me for a good 1/2 hr that her
kids have every right to walk through there, calling me a b**** at least a
dozen times. She also made note that I have no property rights because I
don't have a "partner" and I am "old" and that my yard is an overgrown trash 
heap. And she says that, oh no, she would never sue me if her kid got hurt
back there.

So, I have to spend more money. The surveyor should be here within a week
to mark the exact line and a privacy fence is going up. I showed my old
survey to the city planning office and she said I can build a fence up to
7ft high on the property line. Since the neighbor has his very close to the 
line it may pose a hindrence for the utility access. So depending on how
close he is to the line I may ask if I can simply tie in to his fence, but
apparetnly he likes the kids and isn't a fan of mine so I doubt he'll agree. 
If not and I build a fence, I'd like to engineer something sectionally
removable to aid the utility people.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Geez critters are a lot easier to deal with. They came through again as I
was writing this.

Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Bell" 
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:55 AM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] Re: critters



Thanks. I'm such a sucker for critters. I love them all. (except snakes
and spiders, but they aren't really critters)


Lynda Young wrote:
Oh, Jesse - I'm so sorry.

Lynda
Zone 7 - West TN

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf
Of Jesse Bell
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:29 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: [CHAT] Re: critters

I don't know!!! But it's not over yet.
My baby turkeys didn't make it. They are so hard to raise when they are
that little and have been under stress. I did everything I could
do.....sadness abounds today.




Bonnie Holmes wrote:
Why not?



[Original Message]
From: Jesse Bell
To:
Date: 6/20/2007 4:56:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Crab watch

I haven't had a moose or a hedgehog.



Pam Evans wrote:
oh what a riot and I would love to see a picture! Jesse dear, is there

any

critter smaller than an elephant and larger than a fire ant that you

haven't

had as a pet at some time in your life? You're so funny.

On 6/20/07, Jesse Bell wrote:
>
> That's right! I forgot about that. I had several shells in my > container 
> and it seemed like they played "musical shells" a lot. They would try
> on
> shells until they found just the right one. And when it left it's old
> shell, one of the other ones would go try his shell on for size. Too
> funny.
>
>
>
> james singer wrote:
> Well, if it hasn't moved by morning, I'll go buy it a couple of
> additional options. Thanks for the advice.
>
> On Jun 20, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Andrea Hodges wrote:
>
> > We used to keep a variety of empty whelk shells available for them
> > (had them in a touch tank at the Museum in Charleston) and they > > would 
> > run around checking each on out before they chose. You might need a
> > couple more shells Jim. Those little guys can be picky sometimes!
> > A
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer"
> >
> > To: "Garden Chat"
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:22 AM
> > Subject: [CHAT] Crab watch
> >
> >
> >> Ms Fatma is baby-sitting a hermit crab this summer. A week or so > >> ago > >> we noticed that it seemed a bit large for its shell, so we > >> purchased 
> >> a larger one at a local souvenir shop. For the first few days, it
> >> dragged the new shell all around its tank--into its water bowl, > >> into 
> >> its food bowl--like it was introducing a new chum to the
> >> neighborhood. Well, last night, it parked next to the new shell,
> >> opening to opening. We think, maybe, it's going to move into the
> >> larger shell today or tonight.
> >>
> >> Island Jim
> >> Southwest Florida
> >> 27.1 N, 82.4 W
> >> Hardiness Zone 10
> >> Heat Zone 10
> >> Sunset Zone 25
> >> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> >> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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Pam Evans
Kemp TX
zone 8A

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