Re: critters > fence ideas

And then there's the Scotch Thistle, Onopordum acanthium, which saved Scotland from marauders arriving in the night who ran into them, resulting in pain and yelping. I've seen it 6ft tall. I considered Eleutherococcus sieboldianus Variegatus, Five fingered Aralia, for its thorns and the way it brightens up shade, but it doesn't get very big in shade. 

Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Carpenter" <cathy.c@insightbb.com> 
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Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT]critters > fence ideas



I would suggest Aralia spinosa - Devil's Walking Stick. I understand
that during the Civil War, combatants wouldn't even go near areas
where it grew, no matter what the incentive was.

Cathy, west central IL, z5b

On Jun 22, 2007, at 8:06 PM, Donna wrote:


hum.. something like the pen is mighter than the sword  saying.....:)

Concerning the connecting area in a previous message. Can you
tackfully
put a trellis in the way with a thorny rosebush or something
similar?..
Maybe a thorny bush?

Donna


----- Original Message ----
From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:31:35 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT]critters > fence ideas


Oh, and Pam, last you think me a wimp, it ain't over.  I'm not as
fat as I
used to be but i can still sing.  About the time I finish putting
up the
fence it will be time for a neighborhood newsletter.  I do a well-
received 4
to 6 pages at a time.  I think it is time for Park State East to be
educated
on Easements.  I plan to do it in the form of an interview with the
Township
Assessor who has assured me that my age and marital status have
present no
reduction on my property rights.  I plan to address all her
comments.  I
prefer to choose my battlefield rather than to respond to her
insults in a
similar base manner.

Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
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Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT]critters > fence ideas



I'm afraid I wouldn't have been able to take her on Pam.  She's a
real
biker chick, albeit on the older side of 'chick', I'd guess early
40s.
They have his and hers Harleys and she's always had a mouth.  I've
just
taken to ignoring the whole thing while I wait for the survey - they
should be here early next week.  And I'll post the building permit
while
I'm putting up the fence, should they have any arguments, they can
take it
up with the city planning commission which issues them.

Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pam Evans" <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT]critters > fence ideas



Dear God Kitty.  I admire your restraint.  I'd have decked the
cow.  No
one
would talk to me like that on my property.  No one.

On 6/22/07, Jesse Bell <silverhawk@flash.net> wrote:


Wow Kitty...that's one of the MANY reasons we live out in the
country.
You don't have to deal with neighbors like that. And kids will
be kids,
but parents need to teach them manners and boundaries as well.
When I
lived in K.C. I had a sidewalk in front of my house and then a
green
area of grass beyond that..until it hit the curb to the street. The
sidewalk and that green strip supposedly was city property, but
it was
still your yard. People would walk their dogs, let them poop
there, and
continue walking. They never scooped up their animal's mess.
Some of
these dogs were BIG - a great dane, standard poodle, lab and
airedale
terrier. I had to mow that area and keep it nice and it just
made me so
MAD when they did that. I put a little sign out there that said
"please
scoop if your dog poops", they just knocked it down. Very
frustrating.


You need a James Bond type fence. One that will lower to the
ground for
the utility company, and one that will shoot water at the
neighbors kids
when they walk by!!!


Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
So sorry about the babies Jesse.
as for critters....
My property had a chain link fence across the back west end that
was
barely
noticeable until several yrs ago the new neighbor limbed up all
the huge
pines I enjoyed as a 'borrowed' backdrop and installed a privacy
fence.
The
2 fences, about 7ft apart due to easement allowance looked dumb
so I
took
mine down. Kids from the east started cutting through my garden
to take
the
easement behind the houses as a shortcut to the school bus stop.
So I
refenced, leaving a gap below for the cats to come and go.

Now the kids are coming through from the north and south traveling
through
the back of my yard as a shortcut. they drop trash, have dug holes,
buried
something, have killed the groundcover, and congregate back
there. I
don't
want them there; I want my privacy. I fenced off both ends and
they tore
it
down and brought their moms over, one of which who puffed away
profusely
on
her cigarette, stinking up my yard while yelling at me that the
"path"
belongs to the city. the other mom yelled at me for a good 1/2
hr that
her
kids have every right to walk through there, calling me a b****
at least
a
dozen times. She also made note that I have no property rights
because I
don't have a "partner" and I am "old" and that my yard is an
overgrown
trash
heap. And she says that, oh no, she would never sue me if her
kid got
hurt
back there.

So, I have to spend more money. The surveyor should be here
within a
week
to mark the exact line and a privacy fence is going up. I showed
my old
survey to the city planning office and she said I can build a
fence up
to
7ft high on the property line. Since the neighbor has his very
close to
the
line it may pose a hindrence for the utility access. So
depending on how
close he is to the line I may ask if I can simply tie in to his
fence,
but
apparetnly he likes the kids and isn't a fan of mine so I doubt
he'll
agree.
If not and I build a fence, I'd like to engineer something
sectionally
removable to aid the utility people.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Geez critters are a lot easier to deal with. They came through
again as
I
was writing this.

Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Bell"
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:55 AM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] Re: critters



Thanks. I'm such a sucker for critters. I love them all. (except
snakes
and spiders, but they aren't really critters)


Lynda Young wrote:
Oh, Jesse - I'm so sorry.

Lynda
Zone 7 - West TN

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-
gardenchat@hort.net] On
Behalf
Of Jesse Bell
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:29 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: [CHAT] Re: critters

I don't know!!! But it's not over yet.
My baby turkeys didn't make it. They are so hard to raise when
they
are
that little and have been under stress. I did everything I could
do.....sadness abounds today.




Bonnie Holmes wrote:
Why not?



[Original Message]
From: Jesse Bell
To:
Date: 6/20/2007 4:56:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Crab watch

I haven't had a moose or a hedgehog.



Pam Evans wrote:
oh what a riot and I would love to see a picture! Jesse dear, is
there

any

critter smaller than an elephant and larger than a fire ant
that you

haven't

had as a pet at some time in your life? You're so funny.

On 6/20/07, Jesse Bell wrote:


That's right! I forgot about that. I had several shells in my

container

and it seemed like they played "musical shells" a lot. They
would
try
on
shells until they found just the right one. And when it left
it's
old
shell, one of the other ones would go try his shell on for size.
Too
funny.



james singer wrote:
Well, if it hasn't moved by morning, I'll go buy it a couple of
additional options. Thanks for the advice.

On Jun 20, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Andrea Hodges wrote:


We used to keep a variety of empty whelk shells available for
them
(had them in a touch tank at the Museum in Charleston) and they

would

run around checking each on out before they chose. You might
need
a
couple more shells Jim. Those little guys can be picky
sometimes!
A
----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer"

To: "Garden Chat"
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:22 AM
Subject: [CHAT] Crab watch



Ms Fatma is baby-sitting a hermit crab this summer. A week
or so

ago

we noticed that it seemed a bit large for its shell, so we

purchased

a larger one at a local souvenir shop. For the first few days,
it
dragged the new shell all around its tank--into its water
bowl,

into

its food bowl--like it was introducing a new chum to the
neighborhood. Well, last night, it parked next to the new
shell,
opening to opening. We think, maybe, it's going to move
into the
larger shell today or tonight.

Island Jim
Southwest Florida
27.1 N, 82.4 W
Hardiness Zone 10
Heat Zone 10
Sunset Zone 25
Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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