Re: critters > fence ideas

Good deal Kitty - so glad to hear it!

On 6/26/07, Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Update!
> They surveyed the lot today and it turns out that my neighbor placed his
> fence within about an inch of the property line, so the whole 80 inch wide
> area between our fences that the kids are abusing is ALL MINE!  One
> utility
> pole is completely on my property while the other is on the line.  I was
> trying to figure how to work my fence in alongside his when...DUH...I
> don't
> need a 64 foot fence.  All I have to do is put an 80 inch wide fence at
> both
> ends and I'm done.  4 posts instead of 10. 2 panels instead of 8.  There's
> still the cost of the post-hole digger. $20 for a truck to get the
> materials
> home and $25 for the permit (and of course the $225 for the survey) but it
> is coming out more reasonably than I expected and won't take the whole
> weekend to build!
>
> Kitty
> neIN, Zone 5
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zemuly Sanders" <zemuly@comcast.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT]critters > fence ideas
>
>
> > How lovely to live next to the "Planned Parenthood Poster Kids."  I can
> > soooo identify with you.
> > zem
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jesse Bell" <silverhawk@flash.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 7:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT]critters > fence ideas
> >
> >
> >> Wow Kitty...that's one of the MANY reasons we live out in the country.
> >> You don't have to deal with neighbors like that. And kids will be kids,
> >> but parents need to teach them manners and boundaries as well. When I
> >> lived in K.C. I had a sidewalk in front of my house and then a green
> >> area of grass beyond that..until it hit the curb to the street. The
> >> sidewalk and that green strip supposedly was city property, but it was
> >> still your yard. People would walk their dogs, let them poop there, and
> >> continue walking. They never scooped up their animal's mess. Some of
> >> these dogs were BIG - a great dane, standard poodle, lab and airedale
> >> terrier. I had to mow that area and keep it nice and it just made me so
> >> MAD when they did that. I put a little sign out there that said "please
> >> scoop if your dog poops", they just knocked it down. Very frustrating.
> >>
> >>
> >> You need a James Bond type fence. One that will lower to the ground for
> >> the utility company, and one that will shoot water at the neighbors
> kids
> >> when they walk by!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>  So sorry about the babies Jesse.
> >> as for critters....
> >> My property had a chain link fence across the back west end that was
> >> barely
> >> noticeable until several yrs ago the new neighbor limbed up all the
> huge
> >> pines I enjoyed as a 'borrowed' backdrop and installed a privacy fence.
> >> The
> >> 2 fences, about 7ft apart due to easement allowance looked dumb so I
> took
> >> mine down. Kids from the east started cutting through my garden to take
> >> the
> >> easement behind the houses as a shortcut to the school bus stop. So I
> >> refenced, leaving a gap below for the cats to come and go.
> >>
> >> Now the kids are coming through from the north and south traveling
> >> through
> >> the back of my yard as a shortcut. they drop trash, have dug holes,
> >> buried
> >> something, have killed the groundcover, and congregate back there. I
> >> don't
> >> want them there; I want my privacy. I fenced off both ends and they
> tore
> >> it
> >> down and brought their moms over, one of which who puffed away
> profusely
> >> on
> >> her cigarette, stinking up my yard while yelling at me that the "path"
> >> belongs to the city. the other mom yelled at me for a good 1/2 hr that
> >> her
> >> kids have every right to walk through there, calling me a b**** at
> least
> >> a
> >> dozen times. She also made note that I have no property rights because
> I
> >> don't have a "partner" and I am "old" and that my yard is an overgrown
> >> trash
> >> heap. And she says that, oh no, she would never sue me if her kid got
> >> hurt
> >> back there.
> >>
> >> So, I have to spend more money. The surveyor should be here within a
> week
> >> to mark the exact line and a privacy fence is going up. I showed my old
> >> survey to the city planning office and she said I can build a fence up
> to
> >> 7ft high on the property line. Since the neighbor has his very close to
> >> the
> >> line it may pose a hindrence for the utility access. So depending on
> how
> >> close he is to the line I may ask if I can simply tie in to his fence,
> >> but
> >> apparetnly he likes the kids and isn't a fan of mine so I doubt he'll
> >> agree.
> >> If not and I build a fence, I'd like to engineer something sectionally
> >> removable to aid the utility people.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any ideas?
> >>
> >> Geez critters are a lot easier to deal with. They came through again as
> I
> >> was writing this.
> >>
> >> Kitty
> >> neIN, Zone 5
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jesse Bell"
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:55 AM
> >> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Re: critters
> >>
> >>
> >>> Thanks. I'm such a sucker for critters. I love them all. (except
> snakes
> >>> and spiders, but they aren't really critters)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Lynda Young wrote:
> >>> Oh, Jesse - I'm so sorry.
> >>>
> >>> Lynda
> >>> Zone 7 - West TN
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> >>> Behalf
> >>> Of Jesse Bell
> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:29 AM
> >>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>> Subject: [CHAT] Re: critters
> >>>
> >>> I don't know!!! But it's not over yet.
> >>> My baby turkeys didn't make it. They are so hard to raise when they
> are
> >>> that little and have been under stress. I did everything I could
> >>> do.....sadness abounds today.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Bonnie Holmes wrote:
> >>> Why not?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> [Original Message]
> >>>> From: Jesse Bell
> >>>> To:
> >>>> Date: 6/20/2007 4:56:51 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Crab watch
> >>>>
> >>>> I haven't had a moose or a hedgehog.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Pam Evans wrote:
> >>>> oh what a riot and I would love to see a picture! Jesse dear, is
> there
> >>> any
> >>>> critter smaller than an elephant and larger than a fire ant that you
> >>> haven't
> >>>> had as a pet at some time in your life? You're so funny.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6/20/07, Jesse Bell wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > That's right! I forgot about that. I had several shells in my
> >>>> > container
> >>>> > and it seemed like they played "musical shells" a lot. They would
> try
> >>>> > on
> >>>> > shells until they found just the right one. And when it left it's
> old
> >>>> > shell, one of the other ones would go try his shell on for size.
> Too
> >>>> > funny.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > james singer wrote:
> >>>> > Well, if it hasn't moved by morning, I'll go buy it a couple of
> >>>> > additional options. Thanks for the advice.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Jun 20, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Andrea Hodges wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > We used to keep a variety of empty whelk shells available for
> them
> >>>> > > (had them in a touch tank at the Museum in Charleston) and they
> >>>> > > would
> >>>> > > run around checking each on out before they chose. You might need
> a
> >>>> > > couple more shells Jim. Those little guys can be picky sometimes!
> >>>> > > A
> >>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer"
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > To: "Garden Chat"
> >>>> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:22 AM
> >>>> > > Subject: [CHAT] Crab watch
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >> Ms Fatma is baby-sitting a hermit crab this summer. A week or so
> >>>> > >> ago
> >>>> > >> we noticed that it seemed a bit large for its shell, so we
> >>>> > >> purchased
> >>>> > >> a larger one at a local souvenir shop. For the first few days,
> it
> >>>> > >> dragged the new shell all around its tank--into its water bowl,
> >>>> > >> into
> >>>> > >> its food bowl--like it was introducing a new chum to the
> >>>> > >> neighborhood. Well, last night, it parked next to the new shell,
> >>>> > >> opening to opening. We think, maybe, it's going to move into the
> >>>> > >> larger shell today or tonight.
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> Island Jim
> >>>> > >> Southwest Florida
> >>>> > >> 27.1 N, 82.4 W
> >>>> > >> Hardiness Zone 10
> >>>> > >> Heat Zone 10
> >>>> > >> Sunset Zone 25
> >>>> > >> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> >>>> > >> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
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> >>>> > Southwest Florida
> >>>> > 27.1 N, 82.4 W
> >>>> > Hardiness Zone 10
> >>>> > Heat Zone 10
> >>>> > Sunset Zone 25
> >>>> > Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> >>>> > Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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> >>>> > Jesse R. Bell
> >>>> >
> >>>> > "Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.
> >>>> > I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends
> >>>> > and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing
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> >>>> --
> >>>> Pam Evans
> >>>> Kemp TX
> >>>> zone 8A
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> >>>> Jesse R. Bell
> >>>>
> >>>> "Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.
> >>>> I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends
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> >>> Jesse R. Bell
> >>>
> >>> "Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.
> >>> I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends
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> >>> That's what's insane about it." - John Lennon
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> >>> Jesse R. Bell
> >>>
> >>> "Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.
> >>> I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends
> >>> and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that.
> >>> That's what's insane about it." - John Lennon
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> >> Jesse R. Bell
> >>
> >> "Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.
> >> I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends
> >> and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that.
> >> That's what's insane about it."  -  John Lennon
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Pam Evans
Kemp TX
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